Articles | Volume 18, issue 2
https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-18-575-2024
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Snow water equivalent retrieval over Idaho – Part 2: Using L-band UAVSAR repeat-pass interferometry
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- Final revised paper (published on 12 Feb 2024)
- Preprint (discussion started on 25 Aug 2023)
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Status: closed
Comment types: AC – author | RC – referee | CC – community | EC – editor | CEC – chief editor
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RC1: 'Comment on tc-2023-127', Andrea Manconi, 11 Sep 2023
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Zachary Hoppinen, 06 Nov 2023
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RC2: 'Comment on tc-2023-127', Mathieu Le Breton, 20 Sep 2023
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Zachary Hoppinen, 06 Nov 2023
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CC1: 'Comment on tc-2023-127', Jorge Jorge Ruiz, 05 Oct 2023
- AC3: 'Reply on CC1', Zachary Hoppinen, 06 Nov 2023
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AR – Author's response | RR – Referee report | ED – Editor decision | EF – Editorial file upload
ED: Publish subject to revisions (further review by editor and referees) (06 Nov 2023) by Nora Helbig
AR by Zachary Hoppinen on behalf of the Authors (12 Dec 2023)
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ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (12 Dec 2023) by Nora Helbig
RR by Mathieu Le Breton (18 Dec 2023)
ED: Publish subject to technical corrections (18 Dec 2023) by Nora Helbig
AR by Zachary Hoppinen on behalf of the Authors (19 Dec 2023)
Manuscript
The manuscript from Hoppinen et al. presents an analysis of Snow Water Equivalent (SWE) retrieved via remotes sensing (radar interferometry). The authors exploit L-Band SAR data acquired in Idaho with the UAVSAR platform and compare/validate the results against ground stations and model simulations. This work is of major importance for the remote sensing community, as well as for the development of cryospheric research. The manuscript is well written, the dataset is unique, the methods used analyses performed are of scientific sound, the figures are appropriate and the results and conclusions are of high relevance. The results are of major interest considering the future L-Band SAR missions (such as NISAR), thus I strongly support the publication of this manuscript, provided that the authors include some modifications and additional details to the current version. In particular:
(1) The authors state several times that they "utilized wrapped images when complete spatial or temporal coverage was necessary". However, this requires a clarification, especially to readers not aware of (or not used to) the differences between wrapped and unwrapped phase in radar interferometry. I suggest providing specific details what does it mean exactly and how you combined the results of wrapped phase and unwrapped phase
(2) The section 3.2. is unclear. I think I get the sense of what you mean when you need for a reference phase, but the process of how you get is not straightforward (at least not in your explanation) . I suggest to write down the formulas and also add a figure showing how the reference phase looks like.
(3) I have some doubts on the description of the theoretical 2pi limitation for phase wrapping, which I hope the authors can clarify:
(a) Spatial limitation: it is true that if the InSAR retrieved deformation field is smooth and continuous, implying also appropriate spatial sampling (pixel resolution), the wrapping limit is at 2pi. However, some discontinuities in the InSAR results might occur, i.e., the phase unwrapping (which is a gradient based approach, and needs thus continuity) would fail in providing accurate results. I don't have experience with L-Band interferograms related to snow height change, thus it is difficult for me to understand if the continuity condition is respected, especially in locations with high topographic relief. Including one or more interferograms (wrapped) either in the main text or in the supplementary would help in better understanding.
(b) Temporal limitation. The theoretical limit of phase aliasing between 2 acquisitions is = lambda/(4*dt). With lambda L-Band ca 24 cm this means that in case of changes larger than 1.5 cm/day on the same pixel, we would reach the ambiguity limit. If the spatial unwrapping works well (see point before) then it should be not a problem. However, what happens in the cases when the phase unwrapping does not work and you use the wrapped phase values?
(4) related to the previous point, I find figure 7 of difficult reading. I know that it is convenient to put on a single graph several variables, but i think that for a better understanding you can put several graphs for different densities (using upper and lower boundaries) and/or different incidence angles. As mentioned in point (3a and 3b) spatial and temporal resolution play also an important role in the definition of the phase aliasing.
(5) Missing units on the Figure 9 (y-axis)