I would like to thank the authors for fully addressing my concerns with their responses and for applying the requested changes in their manuscript. I feel that the manuscript has greatly improved from the open discussion review process and, as a result, I think it is now suitable for publication and would be very relevant to The Cryosphere. I would also like to congratulate the authors for a well-structured study that I find personally very interesting. Below are a few more minor comments and suggestions.
Title: I do not think the “On” in the title is necessary.
Line 58: MarsFlo became the Advanced Terrestrial Simulator a few years ago and now incorporates way more processes than it used to. I suggest the authors to use a more up-to-date reference such as Painter et al. (2016). Other good recent examples also include the numerous cryohydrogeologic numerical models presented in Grenier et al. (2018) and Lamontagne-Hallé et al. (2020).
Line 79: This is a personal preference, but I would argue that almost all modelers consider their models to be “state-of-the-art”. Considering this, I think these words rather qualify the opinion that the authors have towards their own modelling tool and are therefore unnecessary.
Lines 94-100: I do not understand why the authors move this paragraph to this section, but I think it belongs more to the introduction. They could also consider deleting it if the authors wish to reduce the length of the manuscript as I do not feel it adds any useful information.
Line 122: The authors talk about “A few dedicated SMST profiles”, although it seems like only one profile has been used to compare to the modelling results. Can the authors either precise which profile has been used (on Figure 1) or how many profiles have been used?
Lines 126-131: According to me, this paragraph belongs in the section 2.2.
Line 189-190: “the thermal effect on water flow” is rather imprecise. One could see the temperature-dependence of hydraulic conductivity as a thermal effect on a water flow, which is consider in T&C-FT. Do the authors simply mean the thermal effect on water viscosity?
Lines 206-207: Unnecessary parenthesis after e.g.
Line 307: “because the true winter precipitation is difficult to observe” is repetitive with “can be partly attributed to the uncertainties of observed winter precipitation events” written earlier in the same sentence.
Line 317: “Figure S2-3” Do the authors mean Figure S2 and Figure S3? If yes, I think this should be written “S2 and S3”.
Line 417: This sentence does not make sense to me. I recommend the authors to read it again and make sure there are no words missing.
Section 5: I think this should be a sub-section of section 4 as this should be part of the discussion.
Lines 461-463: I respectfully disagree with this sentence. I highly doubt the importance of heat advection is limited to the frozen period. Kane et al. (2001), for example, states that heat advection can be quite important during freshet due to increased infiltration from snowmelt. Other studies in permafrost environments had similar conclusions (Chen et al., 2020; Sjöberg et al., 2016).
Line 467-469: I am surprised by this sentence. I agree that latent heat will slow down the freezing or thawing process, but I do not think the same can be said about heat advection. Heat advection has been shown to increase thawing rate in permafrost environments (Dagenais et al., 2020; Devoie et al., 2019). I recommend verifying this statement and specify how Figure 6 precisely demonstrates it.
Table 1: I think including such a table is very useful. However, I think it would be easier to read if the more information was included in the table itself instead of the underlying note. For example, it seems like the table is large enough to include “Latent heat” and “Convective heat” instead of “LH” and “CH”. I would also simply add “on soil properties” next to “ice effect”.
Figure 1: I do not think this figure adds any useful information. The second image is particularly painful to read as labels are stacked on top of each other and the legend is very small. If the authors decide to keep this figure, I strongly recommend improving its formatting as it currently looks like a quick snapshot from ArcMap. For example, I do not think the labels are necessary as these are never discussed in the text.
Figure 2b: I think this graph looks too complicated for what it represents. Instead of referring to thawing and freezing fronts, why not simply make this graph look like a cross-section (with the same x-axis as date) where frozen and unfrozen layers are clearly represented by different colors? That would probably be easier to interpret for the readers. See sketch attached to this review for a very quickly drawn example. Furthermore, it is very unclear what the black line represents (FTFP).
Figure 7: I don't fully understand the choice of the temperature scale here. Why going from 50 to -25°C while the temperature data seems to be within 25 and -20°C? It makes it harder to see the differences between the different simulations.
Figure 8: I think the direction of the water flux should be specified (e.g., positive = upward flow).
References
Chen, L., Fortier, D., McKenzie, J. M., & Sliger, M. (2020). Impact of heat advection on the thermal regime of roads built on permafrost. Hydrological Processes, 34(7), 1647‑1664. https://doi.org/10.1002/hyp.13688
Dagenais, S., Molson, J., Lemieux, J.-M., Fortier, R., & Therrien, R. (2020). Coupled cryo-hydrogeological modelling of permafrost dynamics near Umiujaq (Nunavik, Canada). Hydrogeology Journal. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10040-020-02111-3
Devoie, É. G., Craig, J. R., Connon, R. F., & Quinton, W. L. (2019). Taliks : A Tipping Point in Discontinuous Permafrost Degradation in Peatlands. Water Resources Research, 55(11), 9838‑9857. https://doi.org/10.1029/2018WR024488
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