Articles | Volume 20, issue 7
https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-20-4017-2026
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Investigating the drivers of wintertime Southern Ocean sea-ice leads using random forest algorithms
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- Final revised paper (published on 21 Jul 2026)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-514', Anonymous Referee #1, 05 Mar 2026
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Review comments
This manuscript applies a random forest regression framework to reconstruct and interpret wintertime Southern Ocean lead frequency (LF) using a gap-filled monthly lead-frequency product (Dubey et al., 2025a) together with a set of atmospheric, sea-ice kinematic, and ocean-current predictors.
The study of Dubey et al. (2025a) itself is highly valuable, and the dataset produced in that work represents an important contribution to the community. Compared with that work, however, the contribution of the present manuscript appears more limited and gives the impression of a preliminary or exploratory application of the method. The identified top predictors appear to be only apparent or indirect drivers, and the paper provides relatively limited new physical insight into the mechanisms controlling lead variability.
Using a random forest approach for this type of problem is potentially meaningful. However, for publication as a full paper, the study requires more in-depth analysis. The choice of predictors and the way they are treated should also be reconsidered. In particular, leads are small-scale phenomena, yet the analysis is conducted at a very coarse grid resolution (2° × 5°). In addition, further clarification and discussion are needed regarding the interpretation of the dominant predictor (2 m air temperature) and the regional classification based solely on longitude sectors.
For these reasons, I believe that substantial revision and additional analysis are required before the manuscript can be considered for publication in The Cryosphere.
Major comments
1. Need to address coastal polynyas explicitly
From reading the Introduction, the discussion includes not only leads but also the role of coastal polynyas. However, the term “coastal polynya” is not explicitly used in the manuscript, and leads appear to be treated in a way that implicitly includes coastal polynyas.
Although leads and coastal polynyas cannot always be strictly separated, the text should consistently refer to them as “leads and coastal polynyas…” if both are included in the analysis.
Furthermore, from examining Dubey et al. (2025a), it appears that coastal polynyas forming along ice shelves or along landfast ice may also be included in the lead counts. If this is the case, the manuscript should explicitly state that open water or thin ice regions forming along landfast ice, which are commonly referred to as coastal polynyas, are included in this study and treated as leads.
Some clarification on this point is necessary.
2. Differences between coastal and offshore regions, especially the role of landfast ice
Based on Dubey et al. (2025a), many leads appear to occur near the coast, particularly along the edge of landfast ice. In the present study, regional divisions are made only by longitude sectors. However, it seems reasonable to expect that lead variability differs between coastal regions and offshore pack ice. Despite this, no such regional distinction is made in the analysis. I suggest reconsidering the regional classification. In particular, leads near the coast are likely strongly influenced by the presence and variability of landfast ice. However, the manuscript contains no discussion of the relationship between leads and landfast ice. The landfast ice dataset of Fraser et al. (2020) is openly available and could be used in the analysis. Even if the dataset is not used directly, some discussion of the potential role of landfast ice would be appropriate.
Fraser, A. D., et al., 2020: High-resolution mapping of circum-Antarctic landfast sea ice distribution, 2000–2018. Earth System Science Data, 12, 2987–2999.
3. Causal interpretation of the dominance of 2 m air temperature
From a physical perspective, lower 2 m air temperature should promote freezing of open water and therefore act to close leads. However, the analysis indicates the opposite: lower air temperatures are associated with increased lead frequency, and this variable is identified as the top driver. The paper later argues that this reflects a proxy relationship with cold offshore winds. In other words, the predictor is not a direct physical driver but rather an indirect or apparent one. A conclusion in which an apparent or indirect predictor becomes the top driver unfortunately weakens the physical significance of the result. That said, such outcomes can occur in statistical analyses, and I do not dispute the result itself. However, in this case, the interpretation requires stronger support. The manuscript should provide clearer justification for this proxy interpretation and discuss whether it is possible to remove or isolate the apparent effect. As suggested in comment 2, separating coastal and offshore regions may help address this issue.
4. Gap between the spatial scale of leads and the analysis grid scale
As the authors themselves note, leads are small-scale phenomena. The original data used in the study have a spatial resolution of about 1 km², yet the analysis is conducted on a much coarser grid of 2° × 5°. The authors acknowledge that such aggregation smooths bathymetrically controlled hotspots and narrow coastal leads. Because many leads are controlled by coastal divergence, tides, and shelf-break dynamics, coarse resolution may bias the apparent importance of predictors away from kinematic drivers and toward broader thermodynamic patterns. Please discuss more explicitly how coarse gridding may suppress mechanical deformation signals and alter the apparent ranking of predictors. If possible, I would appreciate seeing a supplemental analysis at higher resolution for a subset region or time period to demonstrate the scale dependence of the results.
5. Unnecessary figures and analysis
Figures 4 and 9 should be removed. The relative importance of predictors is already shown in Figures 5 and 10, and these figures add little additional insight. Moreover, the results depend on the order in which predictors are added, and it is not clear why the present order was chosen. Removing these figures would not cause any essential loss to the paper. As noted elsewhere, there are several areas where additional analysis would be more useful. Therefore, these figures and the associated explanation should be removed in favor of more meaningful analysis.
Minor comments
6. Description of the LF dataset
P3:“This study uses the monthly LF dataset by Dubey et al. (2025b) …”
It would be helpful to include a slightly more concise explanation of this dataset within the paper.
7. Use of climatological sea-ice concentration during AMSR-E/AMSR2 data gap
P4:“For April to June 2012 … we use the mean sea-ice concentration …”
Using climatological values during this period seems inappropriate. The analysis focuses on interannual variability, and therefore replacing missing data with climatology may distort the results.
Instead, it would be preferable either to use SSM/I data or to exclude this period from the analysis.
8. Reliability of the ocean current dataset
P4: Ocean surface current speed data were obtained from ORAS5…”
Ocean surface currents in the Southern Ocean are still poorly constrained. I am not convinced that this dataset reliably represents the variability of ocean currents on monthly and interannual timescales.
Datasets such as B-SOSE may be more appropriate. If the authors wish to use ORAS5, they should provide justification for its reliability in this context. Personally, I would suggest excluding this predictor rather than using highly uncertain data. Ocean surface currents are largely determined by winds and sea-ice conditions, which are already included as predictors.
9. Definition of ice divergence and wind divergence
Please clarify how ice divergence was calculated when grid cells include land or coastline. For example, offshore ice drift near a coast can produce strong divergence along the coast. Were coastline or topographic constraints considered when calculating ice divergence? If not, I recommend recalculating divergence while accounting for land boundaries. For wind divergence, it may be acceptable to compute divergence directly from wind fields without considering topography, although clarification would still be helpful.
10. Sign of relationships between predictors and LF
Figures 5 and 10 show the relative contribution of each predictor to LF variability. However, it is not clear whether the relationships are positive or negative. For example, I initially assumed that higher 2 m air temperature would increase LF, but Section 4.2 later shows that the relationship is actually inverse. Similarly, the sign of relationships for SLP, ocean current speed, and ice velocity is not immediately obvious. At the beginning of the results section, the manuscript should clearly indicate whether each predictor has a positive or negative relationship with LF.
11. Mismatch in Ross Sea (Fig. 8e)
In Fig. 8, the mismatch between observations and predictions appears particularly large in the Ross Sea (Fig. 8e). What causes this discrepancy? If a clear explanation is not already provided in the manuscript (I may have overlooked it), it should be discussed.