Articles | Volume 18, issue 3
https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-18-1207-2024
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Brief communication: Significant biases in ERA5 output for the McMurdo Dry Valleys region, Antarctica
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RC1: 'Comment on tc-2023-44', Anonymous Referee #1, 31 Mar 2023
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Ricardo Garza-Giron, 12 Jul 2023
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RC2: 'Comment on tc-2023-44', Anonymous Referee #2, 08 Apr 2023
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Ricardo Garza-Giron, 12 Jul 2023
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ED: Publish subject to revisions (further review by editor and referees) (24 Jul 2023) by Bin Cheng
AR by Ricardo Garza-Giron on behalf of the Authors (25 Jul 2023)
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ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (26 Jul 2023) by Bin Cheng
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ED: Publish subject to revisions (further review by editor and referees) (08 Aug 2023) by Bin Cheng
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ED: Publish subject to revisions (further review by editor and referees) (22 Oct 2023) by Bin Cheng
ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (06 Dec 2023) by Bin Cheng
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ED: Publish subject to minor revisions (review by editor) (27 Dec 2023) by Bin Cheng
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Peer review for the manuscript: Significant cold bias in ERA5 output for McMurdo region, Antarctica
The Manuscript shows important comparison between reanalyses observations. Reanalyses are widely used tools in climatological studies, they are used as an input data for different modelling purposes and they used for validation models, therefore it is important to evaluate accuracy of reanalyses. As a lot of observations are assimilated into reanalyses, reanalyses are often considered one of the most accurate data of climate state, especially in the case of ERA5 and it precursor ERA-Interim, which has been often best performing reanalyses in the polar regions. However, they both have significant biases especially in surface condition in the polar regions. Therefore, it is important to compare reanalyses with observations which are not assimilated into reanalysis. Consequently, the topic of the manuscript is important and interesting and the manuscript can significantly contribute to the knowledge about climate in the polar regions.
Comments:
Lines 41 – 43. Are the datasets independent, so that the observations have not been assimilated into the ERA5 reanalysis? Could this be explicitly mentioned in the text?
Lines 41 – 43. How large is the area where these 17 AWSs are located?
Lines 47 – 49. Are all observations compared with the same grid cell in ERA5?
Lines 59 – 62. How representative are observation sites and are geographical properties similar in ERA5 as in observation sites? I think you could write a sentence or two about how similar surface properties are around the stations and in ERA5 because surface geographical properties remarkably affect near surface temperature in the polar regions. As surface inversions are common, near surface temperatures are sensitive to even small scale features in surface topography.
Lines 59 – 62. What is the altitude range in ERA5 grid cells? Is the surface elevation almost the same in reanalysis as in reality in an observation site?
Discussion. Could you suggest any reason for negative bias in ERA5? If you have any ideas why temperatures are underestimated in ERA5, you could maybe a little bit speculate with them in discussion. Especially, why ERA5 perform well in the Southern Antarctic Peninsula - Ellsworth Land region in the study of Tetzner et al. (2019) but not in the McMurdo area?
Lines 89 – 90. “TheERA5 temperatures show a large overshoot during the summer, with an average difference of 6.7 ± 0.8 °C (e.g., Figure 2).” What do you mean with overshoot? A large negative bias?
Figure 1. Figure is wrong. According to text and caption the figure should show a map of the region but there is a time series of temperature in the figure. I think the map could give answers to some of my questions. Therefore, I hope that the map includes information about surface conditions (i.e. satellite image in summer at background) topography (i.e. surface elevation contours), sizes of ERA5 grid cell (grid cell boundary lines) and locations of AWSs.
Figure 2b. Could you use the same temperature scale in both axes or add line T_obs = T_ERA to help comparison between ERA5 and observations.
Overall, the manuscript shows an important piece of information about accuracy of reanalyses and could significantly contribute to the knowledge of climate in the Antarctic. However, I am not sure if it fits well to the scope of cryosphere, but the findings of the manuscript is anyway important in the studies concerning cryosphere and thus it could be justifiable to publish it in the journal of the Cryosphere. However, in my comments I raise some issues which should be considered before I can recommend publishing of the manuscript in the Cryosphere and thus my recommendation is that the manuscript requires a major revision before it can be published in the Cryosphere.