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https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-19-4819-2025
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Sea ice concentration estimates from ICESat-2 linear ice fraction – Part 2: Gridded data comparison and bias estimation
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This paper presents a method to estimate gridded sea ice concentrations (SIC) from a novel Linear Ice Fraction (LIF) product derived using an emulator of ICESat-2 tracks. The paper is a companion to part 1 which compares the LIF product to passive microwave SIC products. Here in part 2, the authors examine and quantify the potential sources of bias when using a high-resolution linear product with gridded, low-resolution passive microwave SIC observations. The results look promising and the paper highlights the potential for these linear observations to enhance current passive microwave SIC products. I think this paper needs some revision before it is ready for publication, specifically to improve clarity of Section 2.1. There are also quite a few subtleties about passive microwave sea ice data that are not quite captured in the current paper. My comments below describe these issues in more detail.
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L5: ATL07 relies on a passive microwave SIC product and a SIC threshold, thus, LIF is not really an independent SIC estimate.
L14: Although they both measure the amount of area covered by ice, sea ice concentration (expressed as a percentage) and sea ice fraction (expressed from 0 to 1) are different. The two are used interchangeably and imprecisely throughout the paper. Here (L14), I would change “fraction” to “percentage” since you are defining concentration but consider if the language throughout the paper should be revised to use only sea ice fraction to simplify the discussion since this is how you defined your LIF product.
L55: This applies in other parts of the paper as well, but the SIC products used in this paper need to be defined (e.g., acronyms spelled out) and cited appropriately. I see this is included in part 1, but it needs to be in part 2 as well.
L63: Similar comment as above, there is risk of passive microwave biases in your product because the data are not independent.
L73: I disagree here. 1) A PM satellite covers the entire Arctic approximately twice per day. 2) PM observations are influenced by cloud cover, especially liquid clouds or clouds with heavy precipitation. I think what you are meaning to point out here is that PM SIC observations can be obtained daily even in cloudy conditions.
L76-77: This is also true for most PM SIC products as well. They are usually produced from drop-in-the-bucket daily- or twice-daily- averaged brightness temperatures.
L80: Is ATL07 version 7 available somewhere or is there a reference to this information? I see release 6 is currently available at NSIDC.
Fig 2c: Related to my comment above about concentration versus fraction, the unit for ice fraction is not “%” as labeled on the y-axis. You also have legend labels for LIF and SIC for data that is plotted only as a 0-1 range.
Figure 3 and L136-176: I understand what you are accomplishing with the image and sampling uncertainty estimation and think it is a reasonable approach; however, there are many problems with the labeling on Figure 3 that make it extremely hard to follow this section of the text. I’m having a hard time parsing which parts of the figure the text is referring to because of the errors on the figure, in the caption, and in the text. This section and figure need a careful edit before they make any sense.
L202: “4 or more IS2 crossings” – Does this mean overflights or beams? L174 mentions 2 or 3 IS2 overflights. Does this mesh with L202? Please clarify.
L228-229: I don’t see any discussion of why the LIF and NASA Team are both bimodal. Why might that be? Or conversely, why are the other products not bimodal?
Table 1: The months noted for “summer” and “winter” periods do not match with the text (L214 and 244). Which is correct?
L255: As above, LIF is not quite independent.
Technical/typographical comments
Operation IceBridge appears in a variety of different permutations throughout the paper. Please use consistent capitalization and/or just use OIB after defining it at the first use.
L11: “with has similar” to “which has similar”
L20: “thus hence”, delete one.
L26: typo – concentration
L52: Which version of ATL07 was used?
L70: Where is Supporting Figure S1?
L81: XX% - fix
L97: Should the in text figure reference here be to Fig. 2?
L137: “(c, black line)” which figure?
L155: Is this referring to panel a in Figure 2?
Figure 4 and L195: These SIC products need to be defined in this paper.
Figure 5: In the caption and legend – should it be non-summer instead of winter?
L225-226: Add an in text reference to Table 1.
L234: Use “IS2” to be consistent throughout the paper.
L251: Define SSMI/S.