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Impact of atmospheric rivers on Arctic sea ice variations
Linghan Li
Forest Cannon
Matthew R. Mazloff
Aneesh C. Subramanian
Anna M. Wilson
Fred Martin Ralph
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CC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-36', Marte Hofsteenge, 28 Apr 2022
Linghan et al present an analysis of two summer atmospheric river (AR) events that coincide with two summers of extreme low Arctic sea ice extent. In addition to these two case studies the authors present a statistical analysis on atmospheric moisture related to AR’s and Arctic sea ice tendency and surface energy fluxes based on 40 years of ERA5 reanalysis data. The paper discusses a relevant topic that can improve the understanding of the drivers of Arctic sea ice variability, but in which way this research adds to previous research on Arctic sea ice extremes could be articulated more clearly. Some of the goals stated in the introduction are not met and therefore need rephrasing. While interesting results and nice visualisations of them are presented, some more explanation and interpretation of the results should clarify the point that the authors want to make. A more detailed discussion on how the methods and results of this study compare to previous studies related to sea ice extremes and atmospheric moisture input would help show the novelty of the presented study. I will elaborate on this with a few major comments, followed by minor comments.
Major comments:
- Articulation of novelty of study
The introduction section starts well with a discussion of Arctic sea ice variability and the role that atmospheric rivers and their input of moisture towards the Arctic can play on these sea ice changes. However, the research gap that the authors try to fill is left very generic and unclear (r 36-40). It misses reflection on previous studies that describe the role between atmospheric moisture input and sea ice anomalies and how the approach used in this study is different. Previous studies have focused on convergence of atmospheric moisture or latent energy transport calculated from ERA5/Interim products and their impact through energy balance components on the Arctic surface temperatures and sea ice as well. Can the authors clarify in which way the atmospheric river approach used in this study is different to previous studies and what is the added value of using this approach? - Articulation of purpose of study
The goal of the study ‘to explore how AR’s influence Arctic sea ice variations’ (r 51) is very generic and needs some refinement. The authors nicely introduce what kind of results we can expect from this study (results from the 2 case studies and the statistical analysis over a long time period), but reflection on why this approach is chosen is missing. What is exactly the authors goal of the 2 case studies? - Contribution of dynamic and thermodynamic effect of AR on sea ice
In the introduction the authors mention ‘This study investigates the relative contribution of surface heat flux components and the relative importance of thermodynamic and dynamic processes in sea ice changes when ARs happen in the Arctic.’ While this is a very relevant aim, which to this reviewer’s knowledge has not been answered in the current literature yet, it is not clear in the current manuscript whether the authors answer this question with the presented results. The authors show that both wind anomalies as well as anomalies in the surface energy fluxes coincide with AR events, however analysis or quantification on their relative contribution is not presented. While the wind fields suggest that there might be sea ice motion, no sea ice motion data products are analysed to show whether these surface winds indeed resulted in sea ice motion. - Timescale statistical analysis
The authors show an extensive statistical analysis of concurrence of extreme atmospheric moisture content with the surface energy balance fluxes and sea ice changes. The explanation on choices that are being made for this analysis and what the main message is from this analysis are not clearly given. Previous studies have shown a delayed impact of moisture on the sea ice (e.g. Kapsch et al 2009, Hofsteenge et al 2022), which is not considered in this study used correlation analysis. Could the authors justify this choice and explain why the analysis will focus on short time scales? Adding significance to the maps of correlation coefficients would strengthen this analysis as well. - Discussion of results and consideration of related work
The authors have chosen to include interpretation and discussion of the results within the results section, which can work well for the presented study. However, further explanation of the presented results would improve the impact of the research. In particular, the results could be brought into context with previous studies more clearly. Some references that could be helpful to bring this paper into context are provided in a list below; it would be interesting if the authors could comment on whether they have any idea whether there is a delayed response of ARs on the sea ice. Lastly, the discussion of these results with previous papers on the role of atmospheric moisture or other factors driving the 2012 and 2022 sea ice minima could be improved. How do the results agree with previous research, and what findings are new or contrasting to the previous studies?
Minor/specific comments:
- 63: Add a reference to studies that used ERA5 successfully for AR detection
- 87-94: The authors mention implications of studying ARs for sea ice prediction: is this the motivation for this work? As reader I get confused which research gap the authors try to fill and how the analysis of the 2 cases studies and statistical analysis are used to answer the research question.
- 105: Move reference to Figure 1b forward (when referred to situation on Aug 5)
- 106-107: I don’t understand how you conclude that ‘surface winds push sea ice away from the ice edge towards the pole’ based? Could it also be sea ice melt that leaded to the sea ice concentration change? Can this be concluded from coincidence of negative and positive sea ice changes nearby indicating transport?
- 110-115: It is interesting to read that you see a stronger influence of the moisture input on the turbulent fluxes compared to the radiative terms, could you discuss further why there could be this difference from previous studies (eg Kapsch et al 2016, Graversen et al 2011, Francis et al 2005, Hofsteenge et al 2022). The role of clouds is mentioned here very briefly as well, and I would be curious to see what the relative role of clouds on the longwave and shortwave radiation components are and how that relates to cloud effects through moisture transport of previous studies
- 110: Magnitude of net longwave radiation is indeed small, but is positive in the area of the AR compared to negative to surrounding areas. This sign switch might indicate an important switch in the role of LWnet in the energy balance?
- r.132: Similar as in r.106/107; could you explain how you conclude there is a sea ice anomaly through sea ice motion?
- 144-145: It is interesting to see the AR impact on the energy balance components of figure 2b. The energy balance seems always shortwave radiation dominated, leading to a small net energy flux during the night. However, during the AR event net radiation is much larger in the night because of the turbulent fluxes. Enlarging figure 2b would help to see whether the energy fluxes are negative or positive, which is hard to see now, while it there is a shift from usually net LW cooling to LW heating during ARs.
- 187: This is interesting, this cloud effect seems different compared to the 2012 case, since there is an impact on SWnet visible now. Could you discuss shortly the differences between the AR event in 2012 and 2022 and their impact on the sea ice?
- 188: Similarly to 106/107; on which results is based that there is sea ice motion rather than melt?
- 204-206: What explains this difference in response? It would be good if the authors point out that the starting ice concentration is different for both cases, only 0.3 for the 2012 case and 0.7 for the 2020 case. Therefore the 2012 seems a more rapid change, but both show a change of about 0.2 over a day.
- 210 (This AR event ..): This can be moved forward when the AR event used in this case study is described.
- 209 (For this event … rapid sea ice decrease): How is quantified or concluded that moisture content is more important than wind speeds for the sea ice decrease?
- 225: Here the authors mention rapid sea ice melt, while previously effects of wind that cause the sea ice decrease, this seems inconsistent. Try to specify clearly if the results suggest melt or sea ice motion or whether is not able to distinguish between both.
- 230: Can the authors please conclude on the main difference between the two AR events and their impact on the sea ice
- 294: Can the authors explain shortly how ARs are identified in this catalog and how that differs from the method used in the manuscript?
- 306: Give a reference or explain why this is to be expected
- 329: Which correlations, positive or negative?
- 343: Please give possible explanation for the positive correlations that are found in figure 8b.
- 345-347: Is the partial sea ice cover more sensitive or are larger fluctuations in the sea ice concentration expected in the marginal ice zone and therefore stronger correlations?
- 360: Precipitation is mentioned here but not discussed in results
- 361 (‘Additionally, dynamic .. near ice margins’): This statement should be softened as it’s suggested from surface wind fields and not shown with sea ice motion products.
Reference suggestions:
Kapsch ML, Graversen RG, Tjernström M, Bintanja R (2016) The effect of downwelling longwave and shortwave radiation on Arctic summer sea ice. J Clim 29(3):1143–1159.
Kapsch ML, Skific N, Graversen RG, Tjernström M, Francis JA (2019) Summers with low Arctic sea ice linked to persistence of spring atmospheric circulation patterns. Clim Dyn 52(3–4):2497–2512.
Yang W, Magnusdottir G (2017) Springtime extreme moisture transport into the Arctic and its impact on sea ice concentration. J Geophys Res 122(10):5316–5329.
Zhang J, Lindsay R, Schweiger A, Steele M (2013) The impact of an intense summer cyclone on 2012 Arctic sea ice retreat. Geophys Res Lett 40(4):720–726.
Mortin J, Svensson G, Graversen RG, Kapsch ML, Stroeve JC, Boisvert LN (2016) Melt onset over Arctic sea ice controlled by atmospheric moisture transport. Geophys Res Lett 43(12):6636–6642.
Ogi M, Yamazaki K, Wallace JM (2010) Influence of winter and summer surface wind anomalies on summer Arctic sea ice extent. Geophys Res Lett 37:7.
Hofsteenge, M.G., Graversen, R.G., Rydsaa, J.H. et al. The impact of atmospheric Rossby waves and cyclones on the Arctic sea ice variability. Clim Dyn (2022).
Liang Y, Bi H, Huang H, Lei R, Liang X, Cheng B, Wang Y (2022) Contribution of warm and moist atmospheric flow to a record minimum July sea ice extent of the Arctic in 2020. The Cryosphere 16: 1107–1123.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-36-CC1 - Articulation of novelty of study
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-36', Pengfei Zhang, 28 Apr 2022
Comments on TC manuscript egusphere-2022-36:
This manuscript investigates the impact of atmospheric rivers (ARs) on partial sea ice concentration variation based on observations. The authors started with two cases in the Chukchi Sea in the summers of 2012 and 2020. The surface heat fluxes when ARs approach the ice cover are analyzed. Then, the authors expanded their analysis to the partial sea ice cover in the whole Arctic.
General comments:
The research is interesting and within the scope of TC. However, I do have some major concerns (Note that this manuscript is revisable). First, the authors state previous literature which addresses results similar to what they are presenting. For general readers, it is hard to see how this manuscript is a significant scientific advance in knowledge. I do think that there are some novel insights in this work, but the novelty should be discussed in a more explicit way. Second, the case study is somehow superficial. I do believe this study could be much in-depth. I have some specific suggestions which may be helpful to improve this study (see details below). Overall, a major revision is needed to make the manuscript publication worthy on The Cryosphere.
Specific comments:
1. As mentioned above, several previous studies, such as Woods et al. (2016), Hegyi et al. (2018), and others discussed in the Introduction, have reported that the extreme water vapor transport, including ARs, can lead to the Arctic sea ice melt through the surface fluxes (radiative and turbulent) based on case study and statistical correlation analysis. These conclusions and the analysis method are generally similar to the current study. Therefore, I think the authors need to identify how this manuscript is unique from the existing studies, especially what gap of knowledge this manuscript addresses. To my understanding, most previous studies about the role of moisture transport in sea ice melt focused on the wintertime and the Atlantic sector; while the cases studied in the current paper occurred in the summer the Chukchi Sea. To distinguish from existing studies, the authors may confine their analysis to the summer. The surface energy balance in the summer Arctic is very different from winter, so I think focusing on summer (mainly on the Pacific side, including the Chukchi Sea) can be regarded as a novelty. Another suggestion to polish the novelties can be seen in #3.
2. Analysis method:
For the case study in Section 3.1, I suggest the authors present the daily anomalies (the departure from the daily climatology or the anomalies used in Section 3.2). Based on the analysis of original values of the surface energy fluxes, the authors argue that sensible heating is dominant. However, with the seasonal climatology in heat flux data, the conclusion might not hold. For example, given the climatological net longwave radiation in summer is negative (downward positive), the weak positive values shown in the figures may indicate a large positive anomaly. Therefore, using the original values cannot tell us which process is the dominant one. The current figures showing the original values can be moved to the supplementary file if the authors want to keep them. In addition, the authors may show how large the magnitude of the anomaly is (for example, exceeding its 1.5/2 standard deviation or not). In this case, Section 3.2.1 and Fig.5 can be removed to save space.
3. The role of dynamical ice motion, i.e., ice drifting due to the southerly wind associated with ARs, needs further analysis. For a specific location, such as the small box the authors chose, I agree that the wind anomaly could contribute to the local changes in partial sea ice concentration. Considering that ice drifting is regarded as one of the key conclusions in this study, the authors should clearly show the amount of ice drifting rather than the southerly wind only. The ice drifting has been discussed in many cyclone studies but usually has been neglected in AR or extreme moisture transport studies (focusing on thermodynamical effects). Therefore, the analysis of ice drifting (if the evidence shows that it indeed matters) could be regarded as another highlight.
Technical
1. Rank correlation: I might miss some key information here, however, the authors may state how to rank the data. Does the result sensitive to the ranking?
2. Some figures should be refined. For example, it is hard for readers to identify the digits in Fig.1b&3b.
3. Figures 1a & 3a: The authors may clearly state how they define the SIC change during Aug 4-6, 2012.
4. Line 174: the details of the citation are needed. Is it obtained from an NSIDC webpage?
5. Line 208-209: More evidence is needed to support the argument “moisture content is more important than wind speed”.
6. Line 267-268: 15% is conventionally regarded as the edge of sea ice cover. I’m just wondering why the authors chose 85% as the upper limit. Is it an empirical choice? If so, the authors may remind the readers here and state that the conclusion is not sensitive to the choice after test.
7. Line 290-291: I’m wondering about the persistence of these events (say the continuous days exceed 1.5 or 2 sigma or 90% percentile). For example, if the mean persistence is 5-day, can we infer that the mean SIC melt per event is -5% at a given location? It would be great if the authors can add a figure to present the timescale of these events.
8. Line 295, 308-310: Most of the content of Section 3.2 is based on extreme moisture events. I fully understand that ARs and the 90% percentile moisture extremes share similarities and overlaps. Since the topic of this manuscript is AR, showing the analysis using AR (like Appendix Fig.3) would be more consistent, right?
9. Line 322-324: There are at least two effects of southerly wind associated with ARs: dynamically redistributing the ice fraction and transporting the water vapor into the Arctic. Thus, the authors may add “In addition to delivering water vapor into the Arctic” or similar words somewhere.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-36-RC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Linghan Li, 04 Jul 2022
We thank the reviewer for detailed comments and insightful suggestions. This study has been greatly strengthened and improved by this review. We will revise the manuscript to address each of these comments. Below are our responses to each comment.
Comments on TC manuscript egusphere-2022-36:
This manuscript investigates the impact of atmospheric rivers (ARs) on partial sea ice concentration variation based on observations. The authors started with two cases in the Chukchi Sea in the summers of 2012 and 2020. The surface heat fluxes when ARs approach the ice cover are analyzed. Then, the authors expanded their analysis to the partial sea ice cover in the whole Arctic.
General comments:
The research is interesting and within the scope of TC. However, I do have some major concerns (Note that this manuscript is revisable). First, the authors state previous literature which addresses results similar to what they are presenting. For general readers, it is hard to see how this manuscript is a significant scientific advance in knowledge. I do think that there are some novel insights in this work, but the novelty should be discussed in a more explicit way. Second, the case study is somehow superficial. I do believe this study could be much in-depth. I have some specific suggestions which may be helpful to improve this study (see details below). Overall, a major revision is needed to make the manuscript publication worthy on The Cryosphere.
Specific comments:
- As mentioned above, several previous studies, such as Woods et al. (2016), Hegyi et al. (2018), and others discussed in the Introduction, have reported that the extreme water vapor transport, including ARs, can lead to the Arctic sea ice melt through the surface fluxes (radiative and turbulent) based on case study and statistical correlation analysis. These conclusions and the analysis method are generally similar to the current study. Therefore, I think the authors need to identify how this manuscript is unique from the existing studies, especially what gap of knowledge this manuscript addresses. To my understanding, most previous studies about the role of moisture transport in sea ice melt focused on the wintertime and the Atlantic sector; while the cases studied in the current paper occurred in the summer the Chukchi Sea. To distinguish from existing studies, the authors may confine their analysis to the summer. The surface energy balance in the summer Arctic is very different from winter, so I think focusing on summer (mainly on the Pacific side, including the Chukchi Sea) can be regarded as a novelty. Another suggestion to polish the novelties can be seen in #3.
Novelties of this manuscript:
- This study covers all seasons for the entire Arctic Ocean as shown in the statistical analysis. The most important result is that moisture and wind components of ARs correlate well with partial sea ice concentration change on a daily timescale throughout the year almost everywhere in the Arctic Ocean. Though we only show two case studies during summertime in the Chukchi Sea of the Arctic Ocean, we also examined AR events during wintertime in the Bering Sea with similar effects on sea ice tendency (not included in this manuscript). Therefore, the homogeneous spatial pattern of correlation of AR conditions and sea ice changes and similarity across different seasons are important novelties of this study.
- ARs are one form of extreme moisture transport operating on weather timescales. Previous studies on moisture intrusion into the Arctic emphasize the important role of incoming longwave radiation. Our results show that turbulent heat fluxes are the dominant terms of surface energy balance; net longwave radiation is only moderate, suggesting that incoming longwave radiation is largely canceled out by outgoing longwave radiation.
- We explicitly separate the thermodynamic and dynamic effects of ARs on sea ice changes by partitioning moisture and wind components of ARs. Previous relevant studies mostly examine surface energy budget due to the moisture component of ARs. Our study includes the important roles of winds in driving sea ice motion, as ARs are also characterized by a low-level jet. Therefore, our study of ARs has a more comprehensive understanding of the physical processes of the interaction between ARs and sea ice.
- We develop a new method for detecting extreme moisture anomalies. Our method extracts high-frequency variations on weather timescales, removing seasonal cycles varying year to year. Previous methods remove a fixed seasonal cycle to extract anomalies, which include contributions of interannual variability and weather events. Our method is more suitable for studying extreme weather events such as ARs.
- Analysis method:
For the case study in Section 3.1, I suggest the authors present the daily anomalies (the departure from the daily climatology or the anomalies used in Section 3.2). Based on the analysis of original values of the surface energy fluxes, the authors argue that sensible heating is dominant. However, with the seasonal climatology in heat flux data, the conclusion might not hold. For example, given the climatological net longwave radiation in summer is negative (downward positive), the weak positive values shown in the figures may indicate a large positive anomaly. Therefore, using the original values cannot tell us which process is the dominant one. The current figures showing the original values can be moved to the supplementary file if the authors want to keep them. In addition, the authors may show how large the magnitude of the anomaly is (for example, exceeding its 1.5/2 standard deviation or not). In this case, Section 3.2.1 and Fig.5 can be removed to save space.
We will include analysis of daily anomalies of surface heat flux terms for the two case studies in the revised manuscript. Because the definition of ARs is based on the original values of IVT, we start with presentation of original values to quantify the relative importance of each term in surface energy budget for the case studies. However, our statistical analysis over the entire Arctic for 40 years is based on anomalies.
- The role of dynamical ice motion, i.e., ice drifting due to the southerly wind associated with ARs, needs further analysis. For a specific location, such as the small box the authors chose, I agree that the wind anomaly could contribute to the local changes in partial sea ice concentration. Considering that ice drifting is regarded as one of the key conclusions in this study, the authors should clearly show the amount of ice drifting rather than the southerly wind only. The ice drifting has been discussed in many cyclone studies but usually has been neglected in AR or extreme moisture transport studies (focusing on thermodynamical effects). Therefore, the analysis of ice drifting (if the evidence shows that it indeed matters) could be regarded as another highlight.
Sea ice velocity is an important variable in sea ice balance. However, ERA5 does not provide sea ice velocity. We use northward wind as the driving force to approximately study ARs’ dynamic effect on sea ice. The partial sea ice cover with ice concentration < 85% we consider is in free drift with small internal ice stress (Heorton et al., 2019). Sea ice motion in free drift is largely driven by wind stress. Sea ice velocity in free drift is consistent with wind forcing especially on weather timescales: ~2% in magnitude, ~30 degree of rotation in direction. Northward wind generally induces sea ice reduction due to divergent sea ice motion near the sea ice edge. Satellite observations and model outputs of sea ice velocity will be examined in future study.
Technical
- Rank correlation: I might miss some key information here, however, the authors may state how to rank the data. Does the result sensitive to the ranking?
Spearman’s rank correlation is the Pearson correlation between ranks of variables, considering monotonic relationships between variables. Rank correlation is nonparametric and is robust to extreme values.
- Some figures should be refined. For example, it is hard for readers to identify the digits in Fig.1b&3b.
We will improve the figures in the revised manuscript.
- Figures 1a & 3a: The authors may clearly state how they define the SIC change during Aug 4-6, 2012.
Sea ice concentration change during Aug 4-6, 2012 equals to sea ice concentration on Aug 6, 2012 minus sea ice concentration on Aug 4, 2012 (Figure 1a). The figure caption will be revised.
- Line 174: the details of the citation are needed. Is it obtained from an NSIDC webpage?
This will be changed to be ‘We study another extreme event in summer of 2020. 2020 experienced the second lowest summer sea ice extent and the lowest sea ice extent during spring, early summer, and fall in the Arctic, based on NSIDC sea ice index (Fetterer et al., 2017).’
- Line 208-209: More evidence is needed to support the argument “moisture content is more important than wind speed”.
This is to be changed to ‘For this AR event on July 27, 2020, peaking moisture content, along with high wind speed, generates peaking downward turbulent heat fluxes.’
- Line 267-268: 15% is conventionally regarded as the edge of sea ice cover. I’m just wondering why the authors chose 85% as the upper limit. Is it an empirical choice? If so, the authors may remind the readers here and state that the conclusion is not sensitive to the choice after test.
We consider partial sea ice cover with ice concentration between 15% and 85%. This is in general consistent with the definition of the marginal ice zone having ice concentration between 15% and 80%. Also, sea ice is in free drift with small internal ice stress for ice concentration less than 85% (Heorton et al., 2019).
- Line 290-291: I’m wondering about the persistence of these events (say the continuous days exceed 1.5 or 2 sigma or 90% percentile). For example, if the mean persistence is 5-day, can we infer that the mean SIC melt per event is -5% at a given location? It would be great if the authors can add a figure to present the timescale of these events.
Duration of AR events is another important consideration. The case studies show that those two major AR events last less than 1 day (18 hours and 16 hours), based on hourly time series (Figure 2 and Figure 4). In the statistical analysis, we use daily extreme moisture anomalies, consistent with daily satellite observations of sea ice concentration. The regular and consistent time intervals are necessary for calculating correlations. Responding to the specific question the reviewer asks, the mean ice concentration tendency anomalies with daily extreme moisture anomalies are the same as the mean ice concentration tendency anomalies with one AR event lasting for several days, because ice concentration tendency is ice concentration change divided by duration. Duration and other characteristics (e.g. frequency and intensity) of ARs in the Arctic contrasting with ARs at midlatitudes is a very interesting topic for future study.
- Line 295, 308-310: Most of the content of Section 3.2 is based on extreme moisture events. I fully understand that ARs and the 90% percentile moisture extremes share similarities and overlaps. Since the topic of this manuscript is AR, showing the analysis using AR (like Appendix Fig.3) would be more consistent, right?
We develop a new method to extract high-frequency variations on weather timescales and to identify extreme moisture anomalies as approximate ARs which are validated by Guan and Waliser’s AR catalog version 3. Our method of detecting daily extreme moisture anomalies is simple and efficient for large datasets from ERA5 and agrees well with the AR catalog from 6-hourly MERRA2. As far as we know, there is no AR catalog based on hourly ERA5, and detecting ARs from ERA5 using the full criteria from Guan and Waliser could be another project.
- Line 322-324: There are at least two effects of southerly wind associated with ARs: dynamically redistributing the ice fraction and transporting the water vapor into the Arctic. Thus, the authors may add “In addition to delivering water vapor into the Arctic” or similar words somewhere.
Winds associated with ARs have at least three effects on sea ice: 1. Northward winds drive divergent sea ice motion near the sea ice edge to cause sea ice to decrease dynamically. 2. High wind speed enhances turbulent heat fluxes. 3. Northward winds transport water vapor and heat from lower latitudes into the Arctic. These three effects are mentioned in the results. Additionally, ocean conditions could respond to high winds related to ARs (such as enhanced ocean mixing) inducing further sea ice melt.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-36-AC1
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Linghan Li, 04 Jul 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-36', Anonymous Referee #2, 16 May 2022
This paper uses reanalysis model output (ERA-5) to assess the contribution of atmospheric rivers (strong advection of water vapor; AR) to melting of ice in the Arctic. The authors describe two episodes of strong AR events in the Arctic and map the various heat flux terms associated with each event. They also plot time series of the contribution of various terms over a span of days centered on those events. A statistical analysis of heat flux terms over a multiyear period is used to suggest the spatial pattern of association between AR activity and ice loss.Although the authors do show some correspondence between AR events and ice loss, I got the impression that these AR events were rare, and that shortwave input was by far the dominant term in the net heat flux melting ice (as an aside, I assume the shortwave term refers to input after reflection by the ice, but the authors need to make this explicit). This is not to say that ARs do not melt ice, and potentially advect it northwards - they authors clearly implicate this mechanism in their two case studies. What is less apparent is whether a year with a few strong ARs would necessarily yield less ice than a year without them. The use of rank correlations, as opposed to standard Pearson’s r, is similarly unconvincing to this reader.Similarly, the authors suggest at several points in the text that enhanced net downward longwave radiation is an important contributor to the ice loss - yet the contributions shown in Figures 1 and 2 are exceedingly small.In summary: while I appreciate the authors attempt to quantify the contribution of ARs to melting ice (i.e. this is an important issue), I do not think they have made a convincing case that such events are big contributors to the ice budget of the Arctic.More detailed comments are as follows:l.16 - "longwave radiation" - not shown to be a big contributorl.70 - change "estimate of Arctic" to "estimates of the Arctic"l.71 - change "near Arctic" to "near the Arctic"l.74 change "2" to "two"l.79 change "timescales and to" to "timescales to"l.90 change "2" to "two"l.110 This important point regarding the relative magnitude of the fluxes (net longwave being *much* weaker that turbulent flux) needs to reflected in the Abstract, which had implied that longwave flux was important.l.115 change "important" to "an important"Figure 2 - need to specify whether GMT or local time is plotted, and whether the dates on the axis are centered on midnight or noonFigure 2c - a plot of wind vectors would be more revealing (would show both direction and magnitude, illustrating northward winds)l.152-153 "moisture and wind are both important in contributing to the strong IVT". This statement seems rather circular, since the IVT is basically defined as moisture times wind. Are the authors trying to make the point that the *variance* of the the IVT signal is due equally to both elements?l.189 - "southerly" and "westerly" - for consistency, use "northward" and "eastward", and is done earlier in the textl.209 - "moisture content is more important than wind speed in strong downward surface heat fluxes and raid sea ice decrease" - I don't see this demonstrated in Figure 4; instead, I see a period of high wind speed associated with a steady loss in sea ice concentration.l.226 - "longwave radiation" - I do not see a strong influence of longwave radiation in the shaded plots or line graphs. It's contribution appears to be minor.Section 3.2.2 - what is the justification for using rank correlations, as opposed to Pearson's r? The existence of a rank correlation, by itself, does not make a very convincing case for the importance of a forcing term.Figs 8 and 9 - I think it would be far more convincing to show the Pearson's r correlation of ice loss with northward IVT - has this been attempted?Citation: https://doi.org/
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Linghan Li, 04 Jul 2022
We thank the reviewer for assessment and for directing us towards several important future studies that are related to the physical processes analyzed in this manuscript. The manuscript will be greatly improved by this review. We will revise the manuscript to address each of these comments. Below are our responses to each comment.
This paper uses reanalysis model output (ERA-5) to assess the contribution of atmospheric rivers (strong advection of water vapor; AR) to melting of ice in the Arctic. The authors describe two episodes of strong AR events in the Arctic and map the various heat flux terms associated with each event. They also plot time series of the contribution of various terms over a span of days centered on those events. A statistical analysis of heat flux terms over a multiyear period is used to suggest the spatial pattern of association between AR activity and ice loss.
Although the authors do show some correspondence between AR events and ice loss, I got the impression that these AR events were rare, and that shortwave input was by far the dominant term in the net heat flux melting ice (as an aside, I assume the shortwave term refers to input after reflection by the ice, but the authors need to make this explicit). This is not to say that ARs do not melt ice, and potentially advect it northwards - they authors clearly implicate this mechanism in their two case studies. What is less apparent is whether a year with a few strong ARs would necessarily yield less ice than a year without them. The use of rank correlations, as opposed to standard Pearson’s r, is similarly unconvincing to this reader.
Similarly, the authors suggest at several points in the text that enhanced net downward longwave radiation is an important contributor to the ice loss - yet the contributions shown in Figures 1 and 2 are exceedingly small.
One of the new results of this paper is that sensible and latent heat fluxes are the dominant terms in surface energy budget when AR reaches sea ice surface, while net longwave radiation is moderate, based on ERA5 reanalysis data. In contrast, net shortwave radiation is reduced due to clouds and precipitation when ARs happen (Figure 1 and Figure 3), and hourly time series of two case studies show that those ARs happen at midnight when shortwave radiation reaches minimum (Figure 2 and Figure 4). This does not contradict the fact that shortwave radiation dominates the summertime surface energy budget over longer timescales than weather. Our results on the surface energy budget of sea ice are generally consistent with in situ observations (Tjernström et al., 2015; Tjernström et al., 2019) and coupled atmosphere/ocean/ice models (Stern et al., 2020) showing the dominant role of turbulent heat fluxes under ARs.
We use Spearman’s rank correlation as it is a non-parametric test, not assuming a normal distribution, and is robust to outliers. The variables (e.g. IWV and ice concentration tendency in Figure 8a) being considered are in fact not normally distributed and are characterized by having extreme values. These extreme values are the focus of this study. Rank correlation assesses monotonic relationships without assuming linear relationships between variables.
The reviewer raises an interesting question of whether a year with a few strong ARs would necessarily yield less ice than a year without them. This deserves more comprehensive study in the future. From our perspectives, many factors contribute to the Arctic sea ice variations. For instance, warm air temperature in the Arctic is likely to be associated with low sea ice years such as 2020. AR is only one possible mechanism causing the Arctic sea ice loss in the short term.
In summary: while I appreciate the authors attempt to quantify the contribution of ARs to melting ice (i.e. this is an important issue), I do not think they have made a convincing case that such events are big contributors to the ice budget of the Arctic.
This paper focuses on how ARs interact with the Arctic sea ice thermodynamically and dynamically. The results show that when ARs happen they can cause rapid and substantial sea ice loss on weather timescales. However, the total contribution of all AR events to the Arctic sea ice budget is another important topic for future research. In order to quantify the integrated effect of ARs on the Arctic sea ice, we need to consider the frequency and intensity of ARs. Though individual AR events can have large impacts on sea ice in the short term, the occurrence of ARs over partial sea ice is rare. For example, for the study area in the Chukchi Sea, we identify 553 approximate AR events with 20% frequency (percentage of time of occurrence) when sea ice cover is partial during 1981-2020. Furthermore, other important factors such as the ocean’s roles need to be considered to quantify the relative importance of atmospheric conditions related to ARs in the Arctic sea ice budget possibly using coupled atmosphere/ocean/ice models. The introduction and conclusions of the manuscript have been revised to incorporate these important considerations.
More detailed comments are as follows:
l.16 - "longwave radiation" - not shown to be a big contributor
The contribution of net longwave radiation is only moderate in the surface energy budget.
l.70 - change "estimate of Arctic" to "estimates of the Arctic"
Done.
l.71 - change "near Arctic" to "near the Arctic"
Done.
l.74 change "2" to "two"
Done.
l.79 change "timescales and to" to "timescales to"
Done.
l.90 change "2" to "two"
Done.
l.110 This important point regarding the relative magnitude of the fluxes (net longwave being *much* weaker that turbulent flux) needs to reflected in the Abstract, which had implied that longwave flux was important.
Abstract has been revised accordingly.
l.115 change "important" to "an important"
Done.
Figure 2 - need to specify whether GMT or local time is plotted, and whether the dates on the axis are centered on midnight or noon
It is GMT, and the dates marked on the axis are at midnight. Figure captions are revised to include time standard.
Figure 2c - a plot of wind vectors would be more revealing (would show both direction and magnitude, illustrating northward winds)
We examine wind direction (not shown) and discuss the key results in the manuscript. In two case studies, wind direction is northward when the AR happens and turns eastward after the AR.
l.152-153 "moisture and wind are both important in contributing to the strong IVT". This statement seems rather circular, since the IVT is basically defined as moisture times wind. Are the authors trying to make the point that the *variance* of the the IVT signal is due equally to both elements?
This is changed to be ‘ In summary, simultaneous peaks in moisture and wind speed cause intense downward turbulent heat fluxes and subsequent rapid sea ice decrease when the AR arrives on Aug 5, 2012.’
l.189 - "southerly" and "westerly" - for consistency, use "northward" and "eastward", and is done earlier in the text
Done.
l.209 - "moisture content is more important than wind speed in strong downward surface heat fluxes and raid sea ice decrease" - I don't see this demonstrated in Figure 4; instead, I see a period of high wind speed associated with a steady loss in sea ice concentration.
We mainly consider the AR event on July 27, 2020, not the cyclone lasting for several days. This is changed to be ‘For this AR event on July 27, 2020, peaking moisture content, along with high wind speed, generates peaking downward turbulent heat fluxes.’
l.226 - "longwave radiation" - I do not see a strong influence of longwave radiation in the shaded plots or line graphs. It's contribution appears to be minor.
The contribution of net longwave radiation is moderate in the surface energy budget.
Section 3.2.2 - what is the justification for using rank correlations, as opposed to Pearson's r? The existence of a rank correlation, by itself, does not make a very convincing case for the importance of a forcing term.
Spearman’s rank correlation is non-parametric (not assuming normal distributions) and is robust to extreme values. We also tried Pearson’s correlation, which is similar to but slightly weaker than Spearman’s rank correlation.
Figs 8 and 9 - I think it would be far more convincing to show the Pearson's r correlation of ice loss with northward IVT - has this been attempted?
We explicitly partition moisture and wind components of ARs to have a better understanding of thermodynamic and dynamic processes for a broader community. Using IVT in correlation is an important next step in quantifying the relationships between ARs and sea ice loss.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2022-36-AC2
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Linghan Li, 04 Jul 2022