Articles | Volume 20, issue 5
https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-20-2923-2026
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Simulating liquid water distribution at the pore scale in snow: water retention curves and effective transport properties
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2903', Anonymous Referee #1, 12 Aug 2025
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Lisa Bouvet, 03 Dec 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2903', Michael Lombardo, 13 Aug 2025
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Lisa Bouvet, 03 Dec 2025
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RC3: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2903', Anonymous Referee #3, 15 Aug 2025
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ED: Publish subject to revisions (further review by editor and referees) (05 Dec 2025) by Jürg Schweizer
AR by Lisa Bouvet on behalf of the Authors (15 Jan 2026)
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ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (28 Jan 2026) by Jürg Schweizer
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ED: Publish subject to revisions (further review by editor and referees) (21 Feb 2026) by Jürg Schweizer
AR by Lisa Bouvet on behalf of the Authors (30 Mar 2026)
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ED: Publish as is (02 Apr 2026) by Jürg Schweizer
AR by Lisa Bouvet on behalf of the Authors (10 Apr 2026)
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The physical properties of wet snow are less well understood than those of dry snow, with fewer measurement data and experimental results available. In this study, the authors reported the relationship between the microstructure of snow and the physical properties of wet snow based on simulations. They also compare the simulation results with existing experimental results and propose new equations for estimating these physical parameters. Their simulation approach is unique, and there is no doubt that their method is useful in situations where experimental results are lacking in wet snow field. For these reasons, this paper makes a significant scientific contribution to the field of wet snow science and is worthy of publication in TC. The paper is well organized and easy for readers to understand.
On the other hand, the discussion in this paper is based on simulation results. Simulation results depend on conditions and parameters, so it is necessary to verify the accuracy of the simulation results based on experimental results or observational results. Until the accuracy of the simulation is guaranteed, it is not possible to evaluate the true scientific contribution of the research. Therefore, I believe that it is necessary to add a discussion on the accuracy of the simulation to the paper before it is accepted for publication.
I will list a few points I have noticed, including these points.
<Major point>
As shown in Equation (5), the pressure head of a liquid depends on the radius of the pore, and this is the basic equation used in the simulations in this study. In order to use Equation (5), it is necessary to calculate the radius of the pores in the snow. However, since the pores in the snow are interconnected, it is necessary to separate them in some way in order to determine their radii. Therefore, the distribution of radii may vary depending on the method used to separate the pores, which in turn may affect the simulation results. For this reason, the authors should add an explanation of the method used to separate the pores and discuss the impact of the pores separation method on the simulation results. Finally, based on comparisons of the measurement results of water retention curve, they need to discuss the accuracy of the simulation results, including the best method for separating each pore.
<Specific points>
L27: I disagree because some studies evaluate results based on observations (e.g., runoff from snow cover) or comparisons with laboratory experiments. If they insist on their claim, they should point out the problems with past studies in more detail.
L117: If gravity is ignored, isn't it impossible to calculate the water retention curve? This is because gravity is included in equation (5).
L126: Since cos12 is 0.97 and cos0 is 1, I don't think this will have a significant impact on the result. However, I think it would normally use 0 degrees, so what is the basis for using 12 degrees? Please provide the reference.
L131: As shown in L117, this model ignores the effects of gravity, so the simulation may not accurately reproduce the actual drainage process. How do they feel about this point?
L249: Because nVG is said to depend on the distribution of pore sizes, the results of this study may be due to the method used to separate the pores. Therefore, this possibility needs to be discussed.
L321: This argument is meaningless. This is because the data used for comparison are simulation results, so it is only natural that the results of this study are the most appropriate results.
L353: As shown in Table 2, the parameter settings used in this study differ from those of Yamaguchi et al. (2012). For example, the αVG value in Yamaguchi et al. (2012) is two orders of magnitude larger than the value used in this study.
On the other hand, as shown in Figure 10, the calculated unsaturated hydraulic conductivity using the parameter settings in this study shows relatively good agreement with the results of Yamaguchi et al. (2012).
This result may suggest that the parameterization of the VG model may not have a significant influence on the unsaturated hydraulic conductivity.
I propose adding further discussion on which parameterization of αVG and nVG is more important in determining the unsaturated hydraulic conductivity. This discussion is considered useful for determining which parameterization requires higher accuracy.