Articles | Volume 19, issue 11
https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-19-5781-2025
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Challenges in surface mass balance estimation at Dome C: stake farm comparisons, measurement uncertainties, and station-induced biases
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CC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2477', Alexey Ekaykin, 25 Jun 2025
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2477', Anonymous Referee #1, 17 Jul 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2477', T. Kameda, 25 Jul 2025
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RC3: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2477', Anonymous Referee #3, 28 Jul 2025
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AR by Claudio Stefanini on behalf of the Authors (15 Sep 2025)
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AR by Claudio Stefanini on behalf of the Authors (29 Oct 2025)
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Dear Claudio, congratulations with this manuscript, it is brilliant!
I have a couple of comments, see below:
Section 2.1, Italian stake farms: as I can see from the text, the size of the farms is something like 60 by 70 m. If so, the farms are comparable in size with the largest snow dunes traveling across the snow surface. This fact can add the noise to the inter-annual ITA SMB time-series, which may explain a larger inter-annual variability at ITA farms (Fig. 5).
Then, the distance between stakes at these farms is 10 m which is close to the distance of noise correlation. It means that the observation at a single stake is not independent from the adjacent stakes, and the effective number of datapoints is < 13.
Taking this into account, and also considering the information in Section 4.3 (the farms are too close to the Station?), is it better not to use the ITA data in further analyses?
Also a few small ones:
Line 46 - “SMB is a small difference between large fluxes». I am not sure what you mean here exactly. SMB is (in a first approximation) a difference between precipitation and sublimation, the latter being relatively small fraction (like 10-20 %) of the first. It is the total Antarctic ice sheet mass balance which is a small difference of two huge fluxes, total snow accumulation (SMB integrated over the area) and ice ablation on the AIS’s edges.
Lines 54-56 – here you describe how we make a correction for snow compaction at Vostok, but this paragraph is about defining the density of an annual layer in order to calculate SMB in water equivalent. For this we measure the mean density in the upper 20 cm of snow thickness in a number of random points across the stake farm.
Line 72 – I cannot find Vandecrux et al., 2024 in the reference list.
Line 109 – as I can see in Figure 1b, the length of each farm’s profile is about 1 km, 25 stakes in each profile. It means an average distance between stakes is 40 m, not 25 m.
Lines 175-176 — it is better to say that each snow layer within this thickness is compressed under the weight of the overlying snow.
Tables 2 and 4 – there are negative values in the lower limits of the confidence intervals of the compaction corrections which is not possible physically. Probably it’s better to set forcibly the lower limits to zero?
Very best regards,
Alexey Ekaykin