Articles | Volume 19, issue 11
https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-19-5763-2025
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Winter sea ice edge shaped by Antarctic Circumpolar Current pathways
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- Final revised paper (published on 14 Nov 2025)
- Preprint (discussion started on 12 May 2025)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-1837', Kaihe Yamazaki, 04 Jun 2025
- AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Hugues Goosse, 11 Aug 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-1837', martina zapponini, 12 Jul 2025
- AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Hugues Goosse, 11 Aug 2025
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ED: Publish subject to revisions (further review by editor and referees) (09 Sep 2025) by Jari Haapala
AR by Hugues Goosse on behalf of the Authors (09 Sep 2025)
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ED: Publish subject to minor revisions (review by editor) (22 Sep 2025) by Jari Haapala
ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (25 Sep 2025) by Jari Haapala
RR by Kaihe Yamazaki (29 Sep 2025)
RR by Martina Zapponini (08 Oct 2025)
ED: Publish subject to technical corrections (15 Oct 2025) by Jari Haapala
AR by Hugues Goosse on behalf of the Authors (20 Oct 2025)
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Review of "On the control of the position of the winter sea ice edge by the Antarctic Circumpolar Current" by Goosse et al.
This manuscript investigates the influence of the ACC fronts on the climatological mean position of the Antarctic winter sea ice edge. Using established frontal definitions (Orsi et al., 1995; Park et al., 2019) and observational/reanalysis datasets for sea ice, atmospheric, and oceanic variables, the authors find strong correlations (> 0.85) between the latitudes of all major ACC fronts and the winter sea ice edge. The Polar Front (PF) is identified as the most consistent indicator. The study proposes two primary mechanisms for this control: 1) poleward heat transport by mesoscale eddies generated downstream of topographic barriers, and 2) atmospheric warming above warmer surface waters near the PF, with this heat subsequently transported poleward towards the ice, particularly with southward-directed winds. The authors conclude that bathymetry, by shaping the PF's path, strongly constrains the winter sea ice edge.
General Comments:
A very well-written, clearly structured, and valuable contribution to understanding the controls on Antarctic sea ice extent. The study addresses an important and under-explored link in a circumpolar manner. The use of multiple frontal definitions and a relatively simple yet effective methodology lends robustness to the main conclusions. The identified mechanisms are physically plausible and supported by the presented evidence and previous studies. The figures are generally clear and effectively support the text, with Figure 9 providing an excellent summary.
My concern is the relative lack of discussion on the role of subpolar gyres and the Antarctic Divergence. These features are intrinsically linked to the ACC, upwelling of CDW, and spread of WW, and thus might be highly relevant to SIE positioning. The central narrative that the "ACC/PF controls the winter sea ice edge," while supported by the presented correlations, might potentially be a trivialization or, at least, could benefit from a more nuanced discussion of these interconnected Southern Ocean dynamics.
Specific Comments:
I believe that addressing these points will strengthen the manuscript and offer a more balanced perspective on the complex oceanographic controls influencing the Antarctic winter sea ice edge. This work is otherwise of high quality and is well-suited for publication in The Cryosphere. I sincerely thank the authors for their valuable contribution and look forward to their response.
Best regards,
Dr Kaihe Yamazaki
ARC Australian Centre for Excellence in Antarctic Science (ACEAS)
Institute for Marine and Antarctic Studie, University of Tasmania