Articles | Volume 19, issue 1
https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-19-375-2025
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Evidence of active subglacial lakes under a slowly moving coastal region of the Antarctic Ice Sheet
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-1704', Anonymous Referee #1, 06 Aug 2024
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-1704', Emma MacKie, 06 Sep 2024
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Jennifer Arthur, 14 Oct 2024
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ED: Publish subject to minor revisions (review by editor) (30 Oct 2024) by Huw Horgan
AR by Jennifer Arthur on behalf of the Authors (30 Oct 2024)
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ED: Publish subject to technical corrections (02 Dec 2024) by Huw Horgan
AR by Jennifer Arthur on behalf of the Authors (02 Dec 2024)
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General comments
The study utilizes a novel data fusion of satellite data from ICESat, ICESat-2, and REMA strips, providing convincing evidence for the presence of active subglacial lakes in the coastal DML (Dronning Maud Land) region. Additionally, the authors integrate a stochastic analysis for subglacial water routing adding another novel analysis to demonstrate the uncertainty in water routing predictions. The discovery of active subglacial lakes in coastal DML and stochastic water routing adds new insights to the understanding of subglacial hydrology.
Weaknesses include the limited spatial scope of the study, undescribed methods regarding the stochastic water routing analysis (and unreleased code), and numerous technical mistakes outlined in the Technical Corrections section.
Specific comments
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1 Introduction
3.3 Subglacial water flow
Figs. 2, 3, 4
Technical corrections
Fig. 3
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10: “previously-identified lakes” should be “previously identified lakes” as compound adjectives of adverb and past participle are not hyphenated.
10-11: “Most previously-identified lakes have been found upstream (>100 km) of fast-flowing glaciers in West Antarctica”
24: “Hydrologically-active subglacial lakes…” "hydrologically active" does not need to be hyphenated because "hydrologically" is an adverb modifying the adjective "active." Adverbs ending in "-ly" and the adjectives they modify are typically not hyphenated.
30: “...lakes can range from ~5 km2 to tens of square kilometres”
32-33: “Downstream subglacial water flow has been linked to cascading lake drainage events which transport excess water episodically towards the grounding line”
39-40: “Over the past two decades, 140 active subglacial lakes have been detected…” This number is from the Livingstone and others, 2022 review paper, which does not include lakes from the Neckel and others, 2021 paper you cite elsewhere, which argues they have found more active lakes, so wouldn’t you say the detected number of active lakes is greater than 140?
45-46: “Few active subglacial lakes have yet been reported beneath much of the grounded ice close to the Antarctic Ice Sheet margin (Livingstone et al., 2022).”
55-57: “We further estimate subglacial stream probability using water routing analyses derived from stochastic simulation (Shackleton et al., 2023) to assess upstream drainage basins and potential downstream impacts of the newly observed subglacial lakes.”
58: “previously-unreported active subglacial lakes”
71: “subglacial lakes 40 km or further inland” For American English this should be ‘farther’ since you are referring to a physical distance but I understand British English is more lax with with the farther/further distinction
72: “(7.2-16.2° E)” longitude reference doesn’t seem useful to me
119: Described methodology contradicts Fig. 3 where you omit cyc4
122-23: Your citation for this sentence (Zwally and others, 2002) says footprints are 60 m, not ~65 m as you state; why the discrepancy? Is ~65 m estimate perhaps from post-mission launch analysis? If so, you choose a different citation or add a citation for that
126-7: “...at the point between successive ascending and descending passes over the same location”
128: how is error lower than the range you report that includes flat surfaces?
136-8: “We further neglected potential long-term elevation changes due to surface mass balance and large-scale ice dynamics in the plane fitting as these are generally small in the study region and could interfere with changes due to subglacial lake activity.” A citation would be useful here especially since earlier in the manuscript you contradictorily say this region “has recorded significant ice-sheet thickening in DML over the last two decades (Smith et al. 2020) due to high snowfall rates (e.g. Boening et al., 2012).” (78-9)
150: Why is “Differencing” capitalized?
150-151: these two sentences seem contradictory: did you use ICESat elevation anomalies to select REMA strips or not? First sentence suggests not while the second sentence suggests yes.
171-174: I applaud you specifying your methods to delineate the lakes; most papers skip this important detail
601-2: I applaud JA and GM for releasing your ICESat/ICESat-2 analysis code; however, your team (CS and KM) could do more by releasing the code used to conduct the subglacial water routing stochastic simulations, especially considering this analysis relies on an open-source tool, GSatSim (Mackie and others, 2023); why not contribute more use cases to this project by releasing your code?
596-599
382-83: “Ice thickness above these three lakes” in reference to Takahe Lakes (TL) below Haynes Glacier detailed in Hoffman and others, 2020 should be “four” lakes (See Fig. 1a or Supplement Fig. 1 to see four lakes)
391-3: This sentence could be clearer by stating that many marginal regions are predicted to have cold beds and selected a different citation to make this point:
406: “su1ggested” is misspelled
425-7: You could cite subglacial sediment probability paper (Li and others, 2022, doi:10.1038/s41561-022-00992-5) to bolster argument that bed is likely permeable and you would not see seawater intrusion at these length scales here
434: “quiescence (filling)”: parenthetical “filling” doesn’t make sense because quiescence is not filling or draining
435: “known active lakes” some would argue that the only active lakes we ‘know’ are those we’ve drilled to for in situ sampling; perhaps it’s better you stick with your previous terminology of “previously identified active lakes”