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Impact of freshwater runoff from the southwest Greenland Ice Sheet on fjord productivity since the late 19th century
Mimmi Oksman
Anna Bang Kvorning
Signe Hillerup Larsen
Kristian Kjellerup Kjeldsen
Kenneth David Mankoff
William Colgan
Thorbjørn Joest Andersen
Niels Nørgaard-Pedersen
Marit-Solveig Seidenkrantz
Naja Mikkelsen
Sofia Ribeiro
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- Final revised paper (published on 24 Jun 2022)
- Preprint (discussion started on 12 Jan 2022)
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RC1: 'Comment on tc-2021-373', Anonymous Referee #1, 13 Feb 2022
It was my pleasure to review the preprint titled “Impact of freshwater runoff from the southwest Greenland Ice Sheet on fjord productivity since the late 19th century”. Oksman et al. present an interesting assessment of the impacts of freshwater on fjord productivity through the combination of modelled freshwater runoff estimates and a multi-proxy approach to constrain primary productivity. The authors focus on Nuup Kangerlua, south-west Greenland, which has been well studied, particularly in terms of productivity, but the approach of combining sediment records for the 19th century to present with modelled runoff data is novel and provides an alternative perspective into the important questions of fjord biogeochemical cycling. The manuscript is well-written, with a logical and thorough discussion and I would recommend it for publication after minor revisions, if the authors can address my main concern relating to their interpretation of BSi concentrations (detailed below in “General Comment 1”). I have detailed two main comments on the discussion below, followed by line-by-line specific comments and technical, editorial comments.
General Comment 1:
The definition of primary productivity could be made clearer in several parts of the manuscript, to ensure the readers can easily identify how the authors are assessing the patterns of primary productivity change. The authors do outline the multiple proxies used to reconstruct primary productivity in Line 133, but it could be useful to highlight this again within the discussion so it is clear to the reader which proxies are being used to define primary productivity. For example, in Section 4.3 should the reader assume all of the proxies mentioned in line 133 (i.e. diatom fluxes and assemblage composition, BSi content, composition and origin of organic matter and grainsize analysis), or just specific proxies are being used during the assessment of correlations between productivity and freshwater discharge. Table 3 shows that BSi is the only productivity proxy that has a significant correlation with total runoff in sites 6, 17 and 20, suggesting that this is the proxy that the authors are placing the most emphasis on to form the discussion in section 4.3.
This requires some explanation from the authors into their methodology for BSi concentration analysis. The authors used the DeMaster (1991) extraction method, which can overestimate BSi content due to the simultaneous dissolution of non-biogenic Si fractions (e.g. Barão et al. 2015, Pickering et al. 2020). This is particularly problematic in fjord environments where glacial meltwaters can deliver substantial quantities of glacial flour in freshwater fluxes, containing potentially high concentrations of subglacially-derived non-biogenic, amorphous silica (ASi), which would also dissolve during the Na2CO3 extraction employed by the authors (e.g. Hawkings et al. 2017, Hatton et al. 2019). Therefore, the reported elevated BSi concentrations are likely also a reflection of increasing ASi concentrations when glacial meltwater input increases. This makes the reliance on the concentration data potentially problematic for inferring changes in primary productivity linked to freshwater discharge, as it appears that the authors are unable to deconvolve BSi and ASi concentrations in their sediment records. The authors note there is a large amount of sediment delivered to the fjord with freshwater discharge (line 414), and it is this sediment that I would expect to contain substantial ASi concentrations, which would impact the “BSi” concentrations that the authors report currently. While the multi-proxy approach of the study helps with this problem in part and I completely expect high BSi concentrations based on previous studies of productivity within this fjord, I think it could be important for the authors to address the potential of ASi within their reported BSi concentrations, especially considering the BSi concentrations appear to form the largest portion of evidence for increasing or decreasing productivity within the current discussions.
General Comment 2:
I was a little disappointed with the lack of discussion into how and why Site 20 was found to be barren of diatoms. This appears to be a very surprising and significant finding that warrants more than 1 sentence of basic speculation (line 369). I would ask the authors why the conditions at this site would be significantly different when compared to Site 17 (approximately 25km down-fjord) to lead to diatom valve dissolution? Could the lack of diatoms in the record reflect a true finding and highlight low primary productivity at this site, instead? If the reported BSi concentrations actually reflect glacially-derived ASi, then the correlation between BSi and freshwater input at this site could just reflect a delivery of glacial flour from subglacial discharge, rather than a link to primary productivity. I think it could be useful for the authors to consider the lack of diatoms in the record at this site a little more within the discussion to ensure the different potential fjord processes are reflected within the discussion.
Specific Comments
Line 90 (Fig. 1): Is the true colour imagery from the time of sampling or just the most recent image from Sentinel-2? It may be useful to show the satellite image from a timepoint close to when samples were collected, as sea ice cover in the fjord is likely to vary seasonally?
Line 153: It could be useful to label Fig.1 with the site numbers alongside the core identifiers for easier reference.
Line 260 (Table 1): Could the units be placed in the column headings instead of in each cell?
Fig. 3 and Fig. 4: It could be misleading to the reader to label the plots Outer à Inner fjord, as two sites are within a fjord branch and not part of the main fjord system, so it’s not a simple transect being visualised in these plots.
Line 330 (Table 3): Do the authors have any hypotheses into why freshwater species negatively correlate to total runoff and inner runoff at site 17? This could be an interesting finding to discuss.
Line 340: It would be useful to define the “primary production indicators” here again for the reader, so that it is clear throughout this section how “high productivity” is judged. Also, see General Comment 1, regarding the use of BSi in the assessment of productivity in the fjord environment.
Line 341: Some exemplary values from this study and the referenced published data could be useful here for a quick comparison, rather than the reader having to refer to the original publications.
Line 370: See General Comment 2. Some further explanation of this result would be useful here. The previous discussion focuses on how the inner fjord environment has the highest productivity, yet the inner-most sampling site is barren of diatoms, which contradicts this assertation and many previous studies. I struggle to understand why the local conditions at this site would lead to the dissolution of diatom valves, whereas they were well preserved at site 17. While I agree with the authors and would suspect there is high productivity in this area of the fjord, at least for part of the melt season, I think it is important that the authors address the surprising result of no diatoms within the sediment record in more detail.
Line 372: Should this heading instead read, Sources of sedimentary organic matter of distal sites”? Without δ13C and C/N analysis of the two proximal sites, this section can only describe the source of organic matter at two sites. Would the authors hypothesise that there would be a higher proportion of terrestrial organic carbon, and thus more depleted δ13C values, if analysis was possible?
Line 377: Specify here that this is only for sites 6 and 8, as it currently appears that this is true for all sites, but you do not have data to assess the source of organic matter at the two proximal sites.
Line 389: Is this just for sites 6 and 8? Was the proportion of freshwater species higher at site 17, which would indicate the impact of terrestrial sources is greater at this site, which could be expected. This data could potentially allow the authors to make a statement about the organic matter source of the proximal sites, with the clear caveat that δ13C and C/N analysis could not be completed.
Line 400: Which indicators are you using as “marine productivity” proxies in this statement, please be list them here so the reader can be clear.
Line 422: This sentence opening could be misunderstood, as it begins by contrasting the outer and inner fjord. However, Site 6, which the authors also label as an ‘outer site’ does have correlations between runoff and BSi and TOC. Could the lack of correlation at Site 8 be a result of the sample location being within a fjord side-branch, rather than the main fjord where the freshwater discharge flows? Naming this site as the outer fjord suggests that it is linked to the main branch of the inner fjord, which is unlikely.
Line 444: It is not clear from Fig. 6 to link increased freshwater to differences in bloom timing between sites 6 and 17, as directly comparing the plots is difficult. Could the authors highlight these patterns more clearly? By eye, it even appears that there is decline in early spring bloomers at Site 6 coinciding with the large peak in freshwater around 2012, which is the opposite pattern to that described. The authors could also reference the negative correlation between early spring bloomers and freshwater runoff at Site 17 from Table 3 here.
Line 449: Including a plot of freshwater runoff in Fig. 4 could be helpful to allow for easier comparison between the pattern of changes in freshwater runoff and relative species types.
Line 533: Could include a statement that the likelihood of fjords becoming a greater CO2 sink will only occur while glaciers are discharging directly into the fjord and have not retreated beyond the grounding line.
Technical Corrections
Line 20: Avoid the use of “present” twice in one sentence.
Line 269 (Fig. 3): Axis labels are too small to be legible at 100% view, please edit the figure so it can be viewed more easily.
Line 304 (Fig. 4): Axis labels are too small to be legible at 100% view, please edit the figure so it can be viewed more easily.
Line 316 (Fig. 5): Change the label of the pink section of the pie chart from ‘fjord’ to ‘rainfall’.
Line 463: Subscript required in CO2
Line 495: Should read “records”
Line 533: Subscript required in CO2
References
Barão, et al. (2015) Alkaline-extractable silicon from land to ocean: A challenge for biogenic silicon determination. Limnology and Oceanography: Methods, 13, 329-344. doi: 10.1002/lom3.10028
Hatton et al., (2019) Investigation of subglacial weathering under the Greenland Ice Sheet using silicon isotopes. Geochimica et Cosmochimica Acta, 247, 191-206. doi.org/10.1016/j.gca.2018.12.033
Hawkings et al. (2017) Ice sheets as a missing source of silica to the polar oceans. Nature Communications, 8(1), 1-10. doi.org/10.1038/ncomms14198
Pickering et al. (2020) Using stable isotopes to disentangle marine sedimentary signals in reactive silicon pools. Geophysical Research Letters, 47. doi.org/10.1029/2020GL087877
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-2021-373-RC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Mimmi Oksman, 01 Apr 2022
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://tc.copernicus.org/preprints/tc-2021-373/tc-2021-373-AC1-supplement.pdf
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Mimmi Oksman, 01 Apr 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on tc-2021-373', Anonymous Referee #2, 25 Feb 2022
General Comments
This is a good paper that attempts to interpret a complex data set that at first glance is not easy to understand. I commend the authors for their efforts in interpreting these records cohesively. The age models are reasonable, although in Site 17 it is more difficult to recognize where the unsupported Pb reaches supported Pb levels and the Cs peak is hard to see. Nonetheless, the authors interpretation of the likely age model is sound. The geochemistry is clear and interpreted appropriately. The authors should be commended for including detailed diatom ecological information and references to back up their interpretations. This should be universal in diatom papers but is often missing. I have some concerns and questions about the grain size data and diatom data, but overall, the paper is a great contribution to our understanding of freshwater discharge from Greenland and primary productivity.
Specific Comments
The figures are quite hard to read in many cases. The font is exceptionally small. In some cases, it is the equivalent of 2 or 3 points—nearly impossible to read even when zoomed way in on the pdf! In Figure 1, please increase the font size of the numbered fjords. Figures 3 and 4 are the most problematic for the reader to investigate. It’s nearly impossible to read the axes because of the small font size. In addition, the authors compare productivity levels between sites, but the x-axes are different for each site. It would be helpful if the x-axes were identical between sites in Figure 3. It’s possible that this will be difficult for some measurements, like BSi, but it would be helpful if possible. For Figure 4, it is inappropriate to plot diatom relative percent data with varying axes. The length of 10% on the x-axis for Sea Ice Associated species should be the same length for 10% on the x-axis for Detonula confervacea and for every other taxa. This is the only way to evaluate relative percent. In rare cases, it’s okay to break an axis for taxa that overwhelm the assemblage, but I don’t think this is an issue with this data. It needs to be clear to the reader that the assemblage is dominated by cold-water species and freshwater species are a small percentage. These axes lengths should also be the same for all three sites. In addition, the length of the axes for diatom concentration should be consistent between sites in Fig. 4. I noticed that for all of these figures, although they take up the full vertical space on the page, there is ample space for the figures to stretch horizontally to accommodate these changes in axis length. Please also increase the font size on all the axes so that they’re easy to read.
It’s concerning that there isn’t agreement between the two different grain size methods (Malvern Mastersizer and wet sieving). Shouldn’t they both show increases in the coarse fraction at the same times? The authors should address this in the result section.
Please be cautious about how you interpret “productivity.” In section 4.1 you discuss productivity in terms of TOC, diatoms, and BSi, which is appropriate. However, in section 4.3, you discuss productivity only in terms of BSi. It seems important that the three productivity indicators are not correlated at all sites and in some cases are anticorrelated (site 20). There should be a discussion of these differences and potentially interpretations of why they are different. This could be in Section 4.1 or a new section between 4.2 and 4.3. Please also be specific in section 4.3 that there is an increase in BSi, but not necessarily an increase in “productivity.”
There is discussion about sub-glacial sediment plumes drawing nutrients from deep water to the surface. However, all these sites are at about 500 m water depth. Are the nutrients sourced from this depth (intermediate water depths) or are they somehow drawn from the deeper ocean and in over the fjord sill to upwell at the sites? I see the references here, but I’m having trouble understanding how this mechanism works. Perhaps a sentence or two more in section 4.3 would elucidate this.
In section 4.4, I’m having a really hard time seeing the association between late summer species and freshwater discharge. I’d be more easily convinced that species like Synedra and benthics were responding to the freshwater increase than T. antarctica and Detonula.
Technical Corrections
Table 3: Please either include p-values or the significance level for the correlations.
Line 358: Which site are you referring to in this sentence? Site 8? This is confusing because in the first part of the sentence you refer to the Outer fjord, then say that there are frequent low-amplitude fluctuations, but I can only see one fluctuation in TOC at Site 8. Please clarify this.
Line 378: Please provide references for the δ13C values.
Lines 365-371: It’s striking that Site 17’s BSi is similar to the other sites, but there are no diatoms at this site. It would be helpful if the authors mentioned this and perhaps addressed why this might be.
Lines 385-390: It’s quite easy to check and see if there is a significant amount of land-derived inorganic nitrogen. You just need to plot TOC vs. TN and check if the y-intercept is 0. If it is, then there is no clay bound nitrogen. I suggest the authors do this so they know whether or not it is present. See Schubert and Calvert (2001) for more information.
Lines 416-421: Are you referring only to the inner fjord in this sentence? Please clarify. This statement doesn’t hold true for Site 6.
Line 528: I noticed a typo, this phrase should read, “…summer blooms become larger…” not “becomes.”
References
Schubert, C. J., & Calvert, S. E. (2001). Nitrogen and carbon isotopic composition of marine and terrestrial organic matter in Arctic Ocean sediments: implications for nutrient utilization and organic matter composition. Deep Sea Research I 48:789-810.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-2021-373-RC2 -
AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Mimmi Oksman, 01 Apr 2022
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://tc.copernicus.org/preprints/tc-2021-373/tc-2021-373-AC2-supplement.pdf
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Mimmi Oksman, 01 Apr 2022