Articles | Volume 18, issue 8
https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-18-3633-2024
© Author(s) 2024. This work is distributed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.
Wind tunnel experiments to quantify the effect of aeolian snow transport on the surface snow microstructure
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- Final revised paper (published on 16 Aug 2024)
- Preprint (discussion started on 26 Jul 2023)
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RC1: 'Comment on tc-2023-112', Anonymous Referee #1, 15 Sep 2023
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Benjamin Walter, 20 Nov 2023
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RC2: 'Comment on tc-2023-112', Anonymous Referee #2, 15 Sep 2023
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Benjamin Walter, 20 Nov 2023
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ED: Reconsider after major revisions (further review by editor and referees) (06 Dec 2023) by Guillaume Chambon
AR by Benjamin Walter on behalf of the Authors (16 Jan 2024)
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ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (24 Jan 2024) by Guillaume Chambon
RR by Anonymous Referee #2 (09 Feb 2024)
RR by Nikolas Aksamit (04 Mar 2024)
ED: Publish subject to revisions (further review by editor and referees) (07 Mar 2024) by Guillaume Chambon
AR by Benjamin Walter on behalf of the Authors (04 May 2024)
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ED: Publish as is (24 Jun 2024) by Guillaume Chambon
AR by Benjamin Walter on behalf of the Authors (28 Jun 2024)
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The authors present a very exciting and compelling experiment focused on the effect of wind snow surface microstructure. For how simple the question is, this is an incredibly hard problem to work on. We have limited tools at our disposal to make concise measurements of snow microstructure, and it is incredibly difficult to run such an experiment in the field. This group at SLF has succeeded at combining their expertise in snow microstructure and wind tunnel experiments to provide new insights into this intriguing aspect of snow metamorphism.
My only concern with this research is the significantly unphysical conditions under which snow is being transported. As it stands, I do not see a reason why the rate of change of any snow characteristics in their experiment should be related to any measurements of natural snow undergoing natural transport. It is unclear if the snow particles actually come in contact with the propeller driving their RWT. A schematic that shows this mechanism would be very helpful. what the ,
More importantly, the authors acknowledge that a large portion of snow particles are transported along the outer wall due to centrifugal forces and, among other effects, this causes a measurable impact on density. This is well outside the realm of normal saltation and suspension. Given that v_x is so much larger than v_z, this impact force may be considerably higher than in nature. As well, repeat impacts caused by snow working its way around a corner may cause orders of magnitude more fragmentation.
Given these concerns, could you please address the question of transport around the curves (impact velocities, momentum balance, fragmentation rate, restitution coeff, how many more impacts per second? etc.), or modify the manuscript in such a way that the reader knows while you may have novel measurements of a physical process, this physical process has little relation to what one may expect to find in nature? As it stands, I think the quantitative information provided needs to be qualified or better justified.
There are a few grammatical things that could be improved:
L8- Cover wind speeds?
L11-In the deposit?
L20- Is rolling different from creep?
L19-Chemical species?
L60: Do you mean necessary or inevitable?
L161: To make contact to previous studies?
Other comments
L53-54- At what height are these wind velocities?
L76-77: Very cool
L80-82: Do the particles not come in contact with the propeller?
Figure 2: How did you conclude the jump in RH was from snow particle sublimation? What’s the RH of the cold room?
L258-259: Very cool
L267-268: Again, how can you decouple this from the effect of particles smashing into walls that are necessarily there in nature?