Articles | Volume 17, issue 9
https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-17-4063-2023
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GLAcier Feature Tracking testkit (GLAFT): a statistically and physically based framework for evaluating glacier velocity products derived from optical satellite image feature tracking
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RC1: 'Comment on tc-2023-38', Tazio Strozzi, 05 May 2023
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RC2: 'Comment on tc-2023-38', Suzanne Bevan, 09 May 2023
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ED: Publish subject to revisions (further review by editor and referees) (28 Jun 2023) by Nicholas Barrand
AR by Whyjay Zheng on behalf of the Authors (10 Jul 2023)
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ED: Publish as is (29 Jul 2023) by Nicholas Barrand
AR by Whyjay Zheng on behalf of the Authors (08 Aug 2023)
The manuscript introduces a method that can be used to evaluate the quality of glacier velocity maps derived from satellite image feature tracking. The method includes two numbers that we can calculate for each velocity map, one based on the statistics on ice-free regions and one based on the ice flow physics. The method was tested using satellite optical data (Landsat 8 and Sentinel-2) from Kaskawulsh glacier, Canada. Recommendations on the use of the method are given and an open-sourced software tool was released to support users assess their velocity maps.
The characterization of the errors of ice velocity maps derived from satellite image feature tracking is indeed currently still challenging. In the literature various methods to characterize the quality of flow velocities are proposed, including local measure of correlation quality estimate (e.g. CC or SNR), fraction of area with valid measurements of total glacier area, statistical measures of the velocity over stable terrain and intercomparison/validation with in-situ data or products from different sensors. But overall, for a proper validation of ice velocity maps it is hard to get access to coincident independent data in time and space. In addition, currently the know-how of the operators is often more important than a proper independent evaluation of the results for the selection of the most important parameters to be considered in the traking algorithm. Therefore, the contribution of the manuscript is welcome by the user community.
The paper is well structured and the aims of the work are clearly introduced with a comprehensive discussion of the technical limitations of the current literature. The open-sourced software tool should be very useful to users to check their results, but I must admit that I did not check it. I have also not checked the mathematics of the two metrics, but everything seems plausible. This paper is more of a sort of welcome and enjoyable niche investigation with tools useful to the user community rather than a research with broad scientific implications, but I recommend accepting it for publication in TC after moderate review and consideration of three main points and a few minor ones.
1) The first comment can be probably addressed with an answer rather than with a proper revision of the manuscript, a part from adding a few words at the beginning of the paper. When reading title and abstract I was expecting to see also results obtained from satellite SAR data, in particular Sentinel-1. But this is not the case and only results from optical data (Landsat 8 and Sentinel-2) are analysed. I was rather disappointed by this as a comparison between the optical and SAR results would have increased the interested of the paper. But I can accept the decision of the authors to concentrate on satellite optical images and I just suggest to add “optical” before “satellite image feature tracking” in the title of the paper and again “based on satellite optical images” before “at Kaskawulsc Glacier” in the abstract unless you want to include in the paper also tests based on results from satellite SAR image feature tracking (e.g. from http://retreat.geographie.uni-erlangen.de).
2) In Section 2 only the uncertainty (i.e. precision) of the feature tracking algorithm is introduced but other aspects of the accuracy of the results are not discussed. Some aspects of the later are actually discussed in the continuation of the paper, e.g. at l. 255 (bias correction for image misalignment) and l. 327 (larger errors of matches on the glacier surface rather than over ice-free terrain). I suggest to discuss a little bit more in detail the aspects of precision versus accuracy already in Section 2, possibly also mentioning aspects related to geolocation (e.g. use of outdated DEM) and atmospheric disturbances (clouds in optical images or ionosphere for SAR images).
3) Finally, I recommend making Section 4.1 (Recommended strategy to evaluate velocity map quality) more self-reading, e.g. by saying again explicitly what are all variables and write again in Table 2 the equations. I agree that this might be a repetition, but for someone interested to quickly implement the proposed metrics or reviewing what the open-sourced software tool is computing having a self-reading short section could be quite useful instead of having to go back and forth over the entire manuscript.
Here a list of other minor points that should be considered in the revision of the manuscript.
l. 53. Include something like “using different parameter settings of various software packages” before “172 glacier velocity maps”. At first I could not really understand how you computed 172 velocity maps from two Landsat 8 and two Sentinel-2 image pairs.
l. 102. I suggest including reference to the “multivariate kernel density estimation (KDE)”.
l. 341. What are the vertical bars in Figure 5b?
l. 382. Make reference to https://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/10/6/929 as a previous intercomparison exercise.
l. 383. I am not convinced that the assumption about “coherent … flow pattern” (see l. 130) of metric 2 would be still valid for "different use cases (e.g., sand dune mapping or earthquake displacement)". Remove this or explain why metric 2 is still valid for other uses.