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https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-16-711-2022
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Brief communication: Impact of common ice mask in surface mass balance estimates over the Antarctic ice sheet
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- Final revised paper (published on 25 Feb 2022)
- Preprint (discussion started on 27 Oct 2021)
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RC1: 'Comment on tc-2021-317', Anonymous Referee #1, 07 Dec 2021
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Nicolaj Hansen, 22 Jan 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on tc-2021-317', Anonymous Referee #2, 03 Jan 2022
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Nicolaj Hansen, 22 Jan 2022
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ED: Publish subject to minor revisions (review by editor) (25 Jan 2022) by Joseph MacGregor
AR by Nicolaj Hansen on behalf of the Authors (26 Jan 2022)
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ED: Publish subject to minor revisions (review by editor) (27 Jan 2022) by Joseph MacGregor
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ED: Publish as is (31 Jan 2022) by Joseph MacGregor
AR by Nicolaj Hansen on behalf of the Authors (02 Feb 2022)
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In their manuscript entitled “Brief communication: Impact of common ice mask in surface mass balance estimates over the Antarctic ice sheet” Hansen et al. investigate surface mass balance estimates derived from different RCMs using their ice masks and compare these to estimates derived over a common ice mask. The study shows differences between modeled results on basin scale and highlights the need for a common ice mask protocol.
Addressing differences between ice masks and the implications of these is of great concern. One thing is understanding the differences between models over a common area but understanding differences between integrated model results is equally important; as the authors point out differences between modeled results is more or less equivalent to the Antarctic mass imbalance.
While I support publication of the present study (after revision), conveying the message of community efforts is needed moving forward, I think the authors could do a few things to help the reader fully understand the impact of the ice mask issue.
Main comments
Specific in-lines comments
L12: how do their anomalies compare?
L18-23: this is an example of where more info from Mottram2021 would be good, what are the key findings etc. Here we are dealing with area/ice mask, but what else cause differences?
L28: “in most of the result” why not all? Please ensure consistency throughout
L28-34: Does this difference cause problems for the comparison? This kind of falls back on the description of the native grid of each model.
L37 (and L26): how does re-gridding affect the results? Any differences for any of the models? Did you check for consistency and that no biases where introduced?
L50: re-highlight that this is based on the re-gridded versions
L54: what is the ensemble mean? This is not defined until now – maybe it is included in Mottram21, but values and over what grid should be included here. Need to clearly convey the difference between ensemble mean and 4th column in table 1
L55-56: Or parts of the periphery of the ice sheet that has lower SMB are cut off?
L57-58 incl rightmost column in table 1: I understand from a sea level contribution perspective it is interesting to include the numbers/highlight in impact, but in the introduction, you clearly stated that your ice mask comparison includes shelves etc. I agree that is should be included, it warrants a follow-up, but there is a need to mention this in the Methods – what is defined as grounded ice and are there differences in grounded ice extent in the native ice masks?
Clearly defining the ground ice also becomes an issue in the discussion L80-87(see also below)
L83-85: To some extent it makes sense to compare against IMBIE2 but is it a full-on apples-to-apples comparison? Is there “another” common extent for the ground ice only? In which case the comparison makes sense (grounded v grounded), but from reading the manuscript I am not sure where the numbers for the comparison originate from. Please clarify in the methods, results, and here in the discussion
L 85-87. Reads unclear, is something missing.
add “.”after zero
L92: is it also a melt v precip issue? Perhaps worth clarifying?
L93: where does 63 come from?
L94-98: this brings back the point about the origin of each native ice mask. Following this discussion/mentioning of post-creation modification can be discussed/added.
L105-124: I really like this part. As part of Step 2, I would suggest/recommend proper surface delineation with a specific year associated, e.g. Antarctic summer 2018/19, or what cmopares well with the remainder datasets, e.g REMA, etc., to ensure a common data platform that can “easily” be updated every X years. I realize that some datasets such as RGI are getting “old”, but I will encourage pursuing more recent data/time stamps for the grids, DEMs, etc., and hope that/encourage other data produces will update their data too.
L117: incl. “the” before tool
Tables:
Table 1 caption: what does “the ensemble mean (from Mottram21)” refer to? I don’t follow. I suggest including parentheses around the column headers to help the reader figuring more clearly out what is part of what
Table 1 SMB column: add uncertainties - a key discussion point is also deltaSMB versus uncertainty of each estimate
Table 2 incl caption: add an extra row summarizing the total, even though it is in table 1, and instead of colors then just have deltaSMB in black below the magenta. Adding this will make it easier to compare the basin to the total.
Figures:
Fig1:
Difficult to differentiate between colors
See suggestion above on adding a new observation data to this or a new figure.
Also, perhaps include a blow-up of selected areas around the ice sheet showing both “good” and “bad” examples and the grounded ice extent.
References:
Looks good