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Snowfall and snow accumulation during the MOSAiC winter and spring seasons
Matthew D. Shupe
Christopher Cox
Ola G. Persson
Taneil Uttal
Markus M. Frey
Amélie Kirchgaessner
Martin Schneebeli
Matthias Jaggi
Amy R. Macfarlane
Polona Itkin
Stefanie Arndt
Stefan Hendricks
Daniela Krampe
Marcel Nicolaus
Robert Ricker
Julia Regnery
Nikolai Kolabutin
Egor Shimanshuck
Marc Oggier
Ian Raphael
Julienne Stroeve
Michael Lehning
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- Final revised paper (published on 17 Jun 2022)
- Preprint (discussion started on 26 Apr 2021)
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RC1: 'Comment on tc-2021-126', Joshua King, 04 Jun 2021
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://tc.copernicus.org/preprints/tc-2021-126/tc-2021-126-RC1-supplement.pdf
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', David N. Wagner, 28 Nov 2021
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://tc.copernicus.org/preprints/tc-2021-126/tc-2021-126-AC1-supplement.pdf
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', David N. Wagner, 28 Nov 2021
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RC2: 'Comment on tc-2021-126', Anonymous Referee #2, 05 Sep 2021
Wagner et. al., tc-2021-126 Snowfall and snow accumulation processes during the MOSAiC winter and spring season
The authors present a comprehensive snowfall and snow thickness dataset collected during Legs 1-3 of MOSAiC where they investigate snowfall measuring devices and snow accumulation processes including blowing/drifting snow and snow erosional processes as a function of variable wind speed, storms/depositional events and sea ice ridges acting to capture snow and potential leads serving to trap/remove snow. The paper is well written and cites the literature extensively. Overall, this paper makes a significant contribution to the discipline of snow accumulation and erosional processes on sea ice and the authors should be congratulated for putting together such a comprehensive dataset in a very coordinated fashion. The paper also makes a significant contribution towards evaluating snowfall measurements devices.
I have the following questions/comments/concerns which should be addressed.
Length – This manuscript is made exceptionally long through the inclusion of the snowfall measurement device assessment. I completely understand why the authors felt the need to combine the two datasets (snow thickness transects and snowfall sensor assessment) but it makes the manuscript challenging to follow and keep track of all the different sensors and approaches. A quick random sample of 20 TC papers online makes this one the longest. I would suggest that the snowfall sensor assessment effort could be its own Brief Communication and use it to feed the snow transect SWE work as a separate full paper to TCD. That is a decision for the Associate Editor and the authors.
Brine/salt as a term in snow mass balance equation (Eq 2) – It is well known that snow on first-year sea ice types entrains expelled liquid brine from the near-surface sea ice volume into its cover during the fall and winter seasons through vapour pressure gradients via capillary and wicking action. Some of this salt can also be entrained from frost flowers once they erode after formation. This well-known brine volume in the basal layer of the snow cover has significant implications for heat transfer between the sea ice and atmosphere and thermal conductivity of the snow, including microwave remote sensing and satellite estimates of the snow and sea ice thickness via altimetry. So, shouldn’t brine in the snow on first-year sea ice be a mass balance input (term) in the equation (even though this study investigates mainly investigates SYI). I need to understand its magnitude relative to say sublimation or evaporation or diamond dust, which are mentioned throughout. I good starting point for assessing the magnitude of this quantity are the following four papers 10.1016/j.coldregions.2009.03.009 doi.org/10.1016/0165-232X(84)90034-X doi.org/10.1080/01431169208904280 10.1029/96JC03208 The latter paper by Nghiem et al., 1997 report 2-4 mm of discontinuous brine slush on the ice surface. If this is all wicked up, it may be a relatively significant input, especially if the snow is thin.
Minor editorial comments
Introduction – I’m quite surprised the work of S. Savelyev et al., 2006 is not reviewed, especially since it deals with blowing/drifting snow on sea ice. doi.org/10.1002/hyp.6118
L193 – add an ‘s’ to transect
L217-19 – Why not just say standard deviation instead of saying z-score? It’s a clunky statistical term that some may not be familiar with.
Figure 3 caption – a bit odd to start your caption with ‘All used’. Why not just start with ‘Magnaprobe …’? Also, near the bottom of the caption, change ‘origin’ to ‘originate’.
L233-34 – ‘Furthermore, as we made for each snowpit ….’ Reads awkward. Consider revising to ‘Furthermore, for each snowpit we made at least …’.
L352 – I would argue that snowfall is estimated as opposed to retrieved.
L361 – ‘off’ should be ‘of’
L368 – ‘As we found for 280 m the highest snowfall rates …’ is awkward. Please revise.
L385 – I don’t think 90oC is correct … 90o?
L416 – remove ‘take’ .. or add ‘into’
L451 – rounded rounded
L463-464 – Not so sure you should mention ‘saturation’ here. Why not just save to introduce in the Discussion. If you do so, take L459-63 with you.
L475 – confusions … I’d make singular
L508 – add ‘one’ before another
L516 – Starting this sentence with ‘Especially’ is awkward, Just start with ‘The’
Fig 11 caption – areas … isn’t there just a single green shaded area?
L549 – ‘than’ … not ‘that’
L551 – only one ‘a’
L558 – Not sure this is a sentence
Fig 12 caption – ‘and’ before ‘KAZR’
L560-61 – this sentence is identical with L595-6
L599 – decreased … remove the ‘d’
L600 – ‘From 20 February 2020, also the standard deviation stabilized’ … is an awkward sentence, please revise.
L613 – ‘strengths’ is spelled incorrectly
L618-19 – Please revise … reads awkwardly
L628-20 - Furthermore, the used bond strength parameter of A = 0.18 that we used in the computation was found by (Clifton et al., 2006) in a wind tunnel, with a temperature range of -16 to 0 â¦C which was undershot 620 most of the time during our investigation period of MOSAiC (Fig. 12c). Not sure why this isn’t in Section 2.22 or 2.3.
L635 – ‘where values found of 30% less … ’ is awkward, please reword
L636 – replace ‘as’ with ‘at’ … the end of MOSAiC …
L743 – spelling ‘buoys’
L751 – spelling ‘reason’
L795 – They
L796 – ‘… first validation of the ERA5’ is a bit of bold statement (I would say Wong et al., 2019 and Graham et al., 2019 evaluated it with buoy data or other validation data among others)
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-2021-126-RC2 -
AC2: 'Reply on RC2', David N. Wagner, 28 Nov 2021
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://tc.copernicus.org/preprints/tc-2021-126/tc-2021-126-AC2-supplement.pdf
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', David N. Wagner, 28 Nov 2021