Comments to the Authors
The manuscript submitted by Aga et al. describes the application of the CryoGrid model to simulate ice segregation and thaw consolidation in permafrost. An important factor in determining the impact of warming in permafrost environments is the ground ice content. Efforts to improve the assessment of ground ice content can therefore improve predictions of the impacts of climate change. While the model described in the MS makes some progress in this respect, it appears to be largely limited to segregated ice formation in the upper part of the permafrost, i.e. the transient layer.
My main concern with the MS appears to be similar to the point raised by Reviewer 2 that the authors consider a relatively short period and formation of 2-3 cm of segregated ice and do not consider the greater accumulations of ice that formed over longer time periods which would make sense given this is a modelling paper focussing on ice segregation and thaw consolidation. Although the authors refer to scenarios with a spin-up of 1000 years it isn’t clear to me they have adequately addressed the concern given the spin up refers to 10-year period repeated several times rather than consideration of the historical climate. My main concern with the MS is the authors do not seem to consider ice segregation that occurred as permafrost formed. In areas that were glaciated in North America for example, permafrost largely formed in the glacial sediments after the glaciers receded so relatively young permafrost exists (the age depending on the effect of subsequent warm and cold periods during the Holocene). Ice segregation would have occurred at the base of the permafrost as freezing progressed, until the ice accumulation was unable to overcome the effective stress. This results in large ice accumulations at depth in the fine-grained glacial and glacial lacustrine sediments for example (to depths of 5-10 m or deeper and not necessarily related to ongoing sedimentation) – see for example, Gaanderse et al. (2018); Wolfe and Morse (2017); Smith et al. (2007). From what I can tell the model does not consider this accumulation of ice which is important to consider in assessments of the impact of warming. This would appear to be a rather important limitation to this model.
Several conclusions presented were not unknown including the influence of various factors on formation of segregation ice. It has been well known for decades that soil type is important and that ice accumulation is greater in fine-grained material and peat (e.g. Konrad and Morgenstern 1983; Williams and Smith 1989). This is based on field evidence and lab experiments. There was quite a bit of research done on ice segregation and frost heave 30-50 years ago including model development so a great deal of literature exists including that generated by engineers but there appears to be limited consideration of this body of work. This includes the large body of work by RD Miller, as well as Konrad and Morgenstern (1980,1981, 1982 a,b, 1983), O’Neill (1983); Nixon (1991) and others mentioned in the comments below (see also ref list).
Additional Comments
L5 – revision suggested: “…capable of simulating segregated ice formation..”
L29-30 Note O’Neill et al. (2019) only considered 3 ice types in their model but there are others including injection ice. Reference could be made to the IPA glossary, French (2017) or French and Shur (2010).
L45-46 – There is also field evidence of segregated ice in this type of material, such as information collected from geotechnical boreholes, e.g. , Gaanderse et al. (2018); Wolfe and Morse (2017); Smith et al. (2007).
L52-53 – This is confusing as the formation of ice releases latent heat which would delay freezing. The effect of latent heat release reduces cooling of the active layer in fall/winter (e.g. Riseborough and Smith (1998).
Figure 1 – There is also upward migration of water towards the freezing front at the base of permafrost as it aggrades.
L69-72 – As mentioned above there has been much earlier work done with respect to modelling frost heave (e.g. papers by Konrad and Morgenstern; Nixon 1991 etc.)
L75-78 – See previous comment regarding issue of latent heat release.
L78 – Revision suggested: “…ground can be simulated with…”
L88 – See early comment regarding the fact that the role of these factors was not unknown. Isn’t it more correct to say that you evaluate the ability of the model to adequately represent these relationships.
L117 – There was much earlier work regarding freezing characteristic curves. See examples in Williams and Smith (1989) and also Horiguchi and Miller (1983) and others.
237-238. There is earlier literature regarding hydraulic conductivity in freezing soils, see examples and figures in Williams and Smith (1989), Horiguchi and Miller (1983), Burt and Williams (1976), Perfect and Williams (1980).
L248 – Essentially you are only considering one type of excess ice, i.e. segregated ice.
L255-256 – Formation of other types of ice are associated with different process eg. Thermal contraction cracking required for ice wedge formation.
L272 – As mentioned in general comments, these examples aren’t necessarily representative of conditions everywhere with respect to climate and geological history.
L326-327 – The model seems to assume that frozen conditions at depth already exist but there is no simulation of the formation of segregated ice as the permafrost initially formed.
L481 – revise to “thicker active layer” or “deeper permafrost table”
L485 – The water migration is dependent on the temperature gradient and thermal conditions will also affect the hydraulic conductivity (see refs provided earlier).
L486-505 – As mentioned in general comments, the role of material type in ice segregation was not unknown and is a key consideration in determinations of frost susceptibility or segregation potential (see papers by Konrad and Morgenstern). There is also much field evidence of occurrence segregated ice in fine-grained soils (see refs in general comments) and permafrost maps showing ground ice content including the circumpolar IPA map or O’Neill et al. (2019) base the ice content on material type.
L506-517 – Others have considered role of loading on segregation process e.g. Konrad and Morgenstern (1983).
L561 – As mentioned in earlier comments the consideration of fixed amount of excess ice at the beginning of the simulation is an important limitation of the model. There is no consideration of formation of segregated ice as the freezing front progresses into the soil as permafrost forms.
L693 – There were many of these experiments at bench and field scale in the past and reported in engineering literature (Konrad and Morgenstern papers cited above may include some) and there is also work done by the Geotechnical Science Laboratory at Carleton University in the 1980s and 1990s both bench scale and field scale at facility in Caen (some eg. Smith and Onysko; Williams and Wood 1985; Compendium of reports related to Caen facility, i.e. Canada-France ground freezing expt. can be found in Smith and Burgess 2007).
L700 – See earlier comment regarding lack of consideration of ice accumulation at permafrost base as permafrost forms.
L724 – There was earlier literature on role of creep in segregation processes (might be in some pubs I’ve already mentioned or in body of work by RD Miller).
L744-747 – Considering this period or other earlier cooling periods would require consideration of formation of permafrost at base of permafrost as the frost front progresses.
L772-778 – See previous comments regarding the fact that most of this was not unknown so we didn’t require the model to suggest them. It is more correct to say that you assessed the ability of the model to consider the relationship of these factors to ice segregation.
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