Articles | Volume 17, issue 7
https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-17-2625-2023
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Brief communication: How deep is the snow on Mount Everest?
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- Final revised paper (published on 06 Jul 2023)
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RC1: 'Comment on tc-2022-268', Anonymous Referee #1, 10 Mar 2023
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Wei Yang, 24 Apr 2023
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RC2: 'Comment on tc-2022-268', Anonymous Referee #2, 10 Mar 2023
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Wei Yang, 24 Apr 2023
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ED: Reconsider after major revisions (further review by editor and referees) (24 Apr 2023) by Chris Derksen
AR by Wei Yang on behalf of the Authors (28 Apr 2023)
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ED: Publish subject to technical corrections (01 Jun 2023) by Chris Derksen
AR by Wei Yang on behalf of the Authors (11 Jun 2023)
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The authors present a unique dataset - a geophysical survey acquired on the north ridge of Mount Everest, that shows snow depth with distance from the peak. It provides more detailed observations than are otherwise available, and suggests overall that the snow/firn is deeper than previously thought. I am not entirely convinced that these measurements are critical for studies of the cryosphere and climate change (line 25), but they are certainly of broad interest and provide a small window into one of the most inaccessible places on our planet, and for that main reason I'd be pleased to see them published. However, before they are, I would suggest some revisions are required in the way the manuscript is presented:
- the paragraph starting line 26 provides a critical assessment of previous attempts to measure snow depth at the summit, but I can't find any suggestion in the cited papers that there were major doubts in the measurement. I can easily imagine that there is great variability in snow depth depending on exactly where you acquire it from, and at what time of the season you take the measurement. I suggest the authors repackage the paragraph as being a summary of previous work rather than those previous attempts not being successful?
- Related to this, I'd be interested to hear the authors view on whether the timing (season) of the survey makes much of a difference to the snow depth at the summit. Might these results differ if acquired in the post-monsoon, or can we consider them to be consistent throughout the year? I think this is needed to put this snapshot into some sort of broader (longer) context - and very pertinent as the authors themselves state the temporal variability is significant (line 18). A couple of lines added to Section 3 would be good to see in this regard.
- I have never had the priviledge of summitting Mount Everest, but it looks to me from the photograph in Figure 1 that there is exposed bedrock very close to the surface at the summit location. According to the annotation, the survey profile passes almost directly over that exposed bedrock, but there is no evidence of it in the radargram. I'd be keen for the authors to provide some explanation for this.
- The data presented here are along one survey line, chosen (presumably) to coincide with the established climbing route. I would like to see some acknowledgement that moving the profile several metres either side (even though this might not be safe in practice) could yield very different results. The way the data are presented at the moment is as if these measurements represent snow depth across the whole of the north ridge.
- Related to that, since the exact location of the geophyical survey is critical to the data that are retrieved, I'd like to see some precise co-ordinates added to the manuscript (maybe as graticules on Figure 1b) so that anyone wishing to repeat the survey in the future can do so with confidence.
A few additional minor points:
- it would be normal to simply use the term 'Mount Everest' rather than 'the Mount Everest'.
- given how critical the transmission velocity is in determining the thickness, I suggest adding an uncertainty range to each of the stated values (based on a min of 0.2 m/ns and a max of 0.27 m/ns).
- I struggle to make out the red line on Figure 1c - experiment with some different (lighter?) colours?