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Extremes of surface snow grains change in East Antarctica and their relationship with meteorological conditions
Claudio Stefanini
Giovanni Macelloni
Marion Leduc-Leballeur
Vincent Favier
Benjamin Pohl
Ghislain Picard
Abstract. This study explores the grain size seasonal variations on the East Antarctic Plateau, where dry metamorphism occurs, by using microwave radiometer observations from 2000 to 2022. Local meteorological conditions and large scale atmospheric phenomena have been considered in order to explain some peculiar changes of the snow grains. We find that the highest ice divide is the region with the largest grain size in the summer, mainly because the wind speed is low. Moreover, some extreme grain size values with respect to the average (over +3σ) were identified. In these cases, the ERA5 reanalysis revealed a high pressure blocking/ridge situation in the proximity of the onsets of the summer increase of the grain size, conveying the relatively warm and moist air coming from the mid latitudes, often associated with atmospheric rivers. If weak wind and low temperature conditions occur during the following weeks, dry snow metamorphism is facilitated, leading to grain growth. This determines anomalous high maximums of the snow grain size at the end of summer. These phenomena confirm the importance of moisture intrusion events in the East Antarctica and their impact on the physical properties of the ice sheet surface, with a co-occurrence of atmospheric rivers and seasonal changes of the grain size significant over 95 %.
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RC1: 'Comment on tc-2023-61', Anonymous Referee #1, 18 Jun 2023
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Extremes of surface snow grains change in East Antarctica and their relationship with meteorological conditions
by Claudio Stefanini and others
General
This paper reports on the temporal and spatial occurrence of extreme snow grain sizes on the interior plateau of East Antarctica, as observed by satellite. Four events are discussed in more detail, but explanations in terms of climatological forcing remain inconclusive. This is an interesting paper; the results are original but the analysis lacks depth and remains descriptive, reducing the impact. The figures are of good quality and the clarity of the writing is sufficient.Major comments
Title: the title is not clear, please find an alternative (e.g., Extreme changes in East Antarctic snow grain size and their ...)Section 2.2.2: Even though AR detection is only weakly sensitive to the re-analysis product used, it is still puzzling why not the same re-analyses were used for the AR detection and meteorological analysis. Please comment.
A major concern is the accuracy of ERA5/MERRA over this extreme environment in interior East Antarctica, yet these data form the basis of much of the discussions. Please comment.
Section 2.3: How can the subsurface temperatures be determined using daily average climate forcing (l. 65)? The daily cycle is considerable and important for grain growth, given its nonlinear dependence on temperature.
l. 97: As the definition of an extreme growth event, I expect a growth rate, not an occurrence.
l. 134: The GSI time series show a highly asymmetric seasonal cycle, it almost appears as if the signal is reset each year. It is therefore not surprising that correlations with climate variables are weak. This deserves a brief discussion at this location: how can this be understood from physical processes? How can we be sure that this is not an artifact of the used method and/or satellite data?
The same holds for the connection between grain size and atmospheric rivers: how would they be expected to be physically connected?
l. 171 and following paragraph: The discussion remains very descriptive and potential correlations are discussed mainly in terms of variance explained; it would be more informative to identify physical processes that cause rapid grain growth, and then try to couple these to co-variations with meteorological parameters. See also comment on the seasonal cycle above.
Minor and textual commentsl. 18: insulation -> isolation
l. 21: tropics -> subtropics or mid-latitudes
l. 22: Consider moving this motivation to study grain size to the beginning of the introduction.
l. 39: "high grain size" sounds awkward; suggest finding an alternative.
l. 65: suggest: "and we reprojected them using the Southern polar stereographic projection"
l. 65: mean -> means
l. 107: Please specify what you mean by 'models' here.
Fig. 2: axes labels are missing
l. 198: short -> shorter
l. 232: to the pole -> to the interior
l. 263: the downhill transport of cold air is a katabatic wind
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-2023-61-RC1 - AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Claudio Stefanini, 27 Sep 2023
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RC2: 'Comment on tc-2023-61', Anonymous Referee #2, 30 Aug 2023
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Claudio Stefanini, 27 Sep 2023
Claudio Stefanini et al.
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