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Estimation of water residence time in a permafrost catchment in the Central Tibetan Plateau using long-term water stable isotopic data
- 1State Key Laboratory of Cryospheric Science, Northwest Institute of Eco-Environment and Resources, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Lanzhou 730000, China
- 2College of Resources and Environment, University of Chinese Academy of Sciences, Beijing 100049, China
- 3China Institute of Water Resources and Hydropower Research, Beijing 100049, China
- 4Water Resources Department, Yangtze River Scientific Research Institute, Wuhan 430010, China
- 1State Key Laboratory of Cryospheric Science, Northwest Institute of Eco-Environment and Resources, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Lanzhou 730000, China
- 2College of Resources and Environment, University of Chinese Academy of Sciences, Beijing 100049, China
- 3China Institute of Water Resources and Hydropower Research, Beijing 100049, China
- 4Water Resources Department, Yangtze River Scientific Research Institute, Wuhan 430010, China
Abstract. Global warming has greatly impacted the hydrological processes and ecological environment in permafrost regions. Mean residence time (MRT) is a fundamental catchment descriptor that reveals hydrological information about storage, flow pathways, and water source within a particular catchment. However, water stable isotopes and MRT have scarcely been investigated due to limited data collection in the high-altitude permafrost regions. This study used the long-term stable isotopic observations to identify runoff components and applied the sine-wave exponential model to estimate water MRT in a high-altitude permafrost catchment (5,300 m a.s.l.) in the central Tibetan Plateau (TP). We found that the isotope composition in precipitation, stream, and supra-permafrost water exhibited obvious seasonal variability. Freeze-thaw cycles of permafrost active layer and direct input of precipitation significantly modified the stable isotope compositions in supra-permafrost and stream water. The hydrograph separation revealed that precipitation and supra-permafrost water accounted for 62 ± 13 % and 38 ± 13 % of the total discharge of stream water, respectively. We estimated that MRT for stream and supra-permafrost water was 100 and 255 days, respectively. Such shorter MRT of supra-permafrost and stream water (compared to the non-permafrost catchments) might reflect the unique characteristics of hydrological process in permafrost catchments. Moreover, the MRT of supra-permafrost water was found to be more sensitive to environmental change than that of stream water. Climate and vegetation factors affected the MRT of stream and supra-permafrost water mainly by changing the thickness of permafrost active layer. We conclude that global warming might retard the rate of water cycle in permafrost regions. Overall, our study deepened the understanding of hydrological processes in high-altitude permafrost catchments and provided a decision-making basis for ecological environmental protection and water resources safety in the source of rivers on the TP.
Shaoyong Wang et al.
Status: closed
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RC1: 'Comment on tc-2022-17', Anonymous Referee #1, 15 Jun 2022
This study uses stable water isotopes to look at the mean residence time (MRT) for a catchment in the Tibetan Plateau. The novelty here is the long-term nature of the data series being leveraged for the MRT estimate as these types of sampling campaigns are challenging to coordinate in cold and alpine regions.
The study is well written and well structured making it easy to read. Still, I do struggle some with the uniqueness of the study presented as while these data types of are challenge to collect and not often presented in the literature, there is a question of what we learn here for this catchment that advances beyond previous regional efforts like in Song et al. (2017)? I think bringing forward the improved process understanding in face of the possible uncertainty is needed here to move this manuscript beyond a presentation of the uniqueness of place that leverages data alone.
One aspect that needs attention is the intercomparison of MRTs between various catchments and studies presented in the manuscript. I appreciate the effort and thinking to place this one catchment in a broader context; however, the different methods and models used when estimating MRT can have significant impacts on the resolution MRT and the entire travel time distribution. Caution is needed when comparing absolute MRT with other catchments. I think if the authors want to keep these comparisons, more information needs to be added (like a column or two in Table 4) indicating the model type and technique used to estimate MRT. Further, a richer discussion of the impacts of the modeling assumptions should be provided as they pertain to this region. There has been significant research and literature on these topics over the last decades and it seems some of the more modern interpretations are missing from this study. All in all, I would anticipate a more thoughtful consideration of the assumptions behind the convolution approach you are implementing here.
In addition, if there is a connection between the MRT and the unique processes in permafrost environment, it would be more insightful to describe them explicitly. Modeling literature (e.g. Frampton and Destouni, 2015) exists on the subject and would help reduce the ambiguity connecting water movement and process as they are considered in this study. Further, and connected with this comment, there is need to separate the result and discussion section in to two separate sections. Given the amount of data being presented and the analysis put forward, plenty of material for results. Also, mixing the two sections together as is currently done creates confusion about what your data show and how you are interpreting it relative to the science. And it would be good in a separate section of the discussion to consider more the potential limitations of the current study as they pertain to assumptions, data representativeness and the models being considered.
Given the complexity of sampling precipitation in cold regions, more information is needed to help the reader understand how you were sampling here. For example, were how was snow treated throughout the sampling? Were snowpacks or snow melt water collected and considered as inputs in any sense? Also, looking at the variation in elevation in the region, how representative of the catchment is the one meteorological station and precipitation sampling location? Rainfall isotopic composition is rather variable with elevation and snowpack and snow melt rates are really variable. How is the isotopic input variability considered within this study? It seems ignored based on the methodology presented.
The input variability and source water variability of only having one location for monitoring supra-permafrost water sampling seems as if it could confound the results and interpretation to some extent. Specifically, if there are large frozen regions upstream of the stream sampling location, these would have significant impacts on the ability of precipitation to transfer to the stream over the entire catchment. Variability of isotopic compositions in springs and sub-watersheds is well documented (e.g. Lyon et al. 2018). The spatial variability at play in the catchment must be either accounted for or the potential impacts at least taking into consideration via discussion within this study.
Finally, some consideration of uncertainty should be presented. There are several fitted relationships that are being compared across the research. In and of themselves, these are wrought with uncertainty and confidence intervals that can impact the significance of the findings. I would want to see some assessment of the robustness of the results relative to the uncertainty or lack of representativeness of the data being presented. At the least, the two-component hydrograph can directly incorporate the uncertainty via the approach put forward by Genereux (1998). Without characterization of the uncertainty, I am left wondering how much of the results is driven by under-represented variability in the sampling at a catchment scale, the simplifying assumptions within the model, and the fitted equations that smooth out all the between event variability and extremes. That last point is rather important given potential flashy nature of these systems during certain times of the year and more dampened responses as the systems thaw seasonally.
Minor Comments
L100: This sentence is random and does not make sense here. Further, not sure what you men with efficiently?
L171: This first sentence is odd. Separate the results and discussions to increase presentation clarity.
References
Frampton, A., and G. Destouni (2015), Impact of degrading permafrost on subsurface solute transport pathways and travel times, Water Resour. Res.,51,7680–7701, doi:10.1002/2014WR016689.
Genereux, D., 1998. Quantifying uncertainty in tracer-based hydrograph separations. Water Resourses Research, 34 (4), 915–919. doi:10.1029/98WR00010
Lyon, S.W., S.W. Ploum, Y. van der Velde, G. Rocher-Ros, C.M. Mörth, R. Giesler (2018) Lessons learned from monitoring the stable water isotopic variability in precipitation and streamflow across a snow-dominated sub-arctic catchment, Arctic, Antarctic, and Alpine Research, 50(1), e1454778, https://doi.org/10.1080/15230430.2018.1454778.
Song, C., Wang, G., Liu, G., Mao, T., Sun, X., and Chen, X.: Stable isotope variations of precipitation and streamflow reveal the young water fraction of a permafrost watershed, Hydrological Processes, 31, 935–947, https://doi.org/10.1002/h 485 yp.11077, 2017.
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', He Xiaobo, 22 Aug 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on tc-2022-17', Anonymous Referee #2, 10 Jul 2022
The paper by Wang and co-authors entitled "Estimation of water residence time in a permafrost catchment in the Central Tibetan Plateau using long-term water stable isotopic data" leverages a unique data set in a remote environment to shed light on the 'mean residence time' (MRT) of groundwater and stream water using transit time approaches. They seek to highlight how the active layer and permafrost influence MRT and draw inferences on permafrost hydrology.
The paper is well written and clear. The figures are straight-forward and interpretable. I have a number of editorial comments at the end, yet I have considerable concerns about the analysis that I believe must be addressed before this manuscript is suitable for publication. The data is novel and is of considerable value to the hydrological and permafrost community, yet there are large uncertainties and at times I believe mis-application of methods that the authors need to consider before this manuscript is suitable for publication.
General Comments:
~~The authors use the exponential model as opposed to the more widely used gamma distribution. I am curious as to why this is. This will have considerable impact on the MRT calculation and should be discussed.
~~The correlation analysis is highly flawed and must be revisited. It appears the authors use any type of correlation against variables with different units, etc., to 'look around for relationships'. This is not statistically robust in any way. Values must be transposed/normalized to compare among factors, and the type of correlation must be explained. Figure 6 shows two 'best fit' lines with either low or no relationships. This is a regression analysis. Furthermore, this data is ALL serially correlated which needs to be accounted for. As it stands, the authors have a lot of work to do to justify this analytical approach. Binning data together from across seasons, etc., truly make this confounding as the active layer changes.
~~More information on the IHS method is needed.
~~More appropriate literature is needed, along with less bold statements about the importance/influence of this work.
~~Many of the conclusions are not supported by the data.
Line Comments:
~~Line 36. "The progressive increase of the permafrost active layer thickness has exacerbated the increased water storage capacity of permafrost and exerted a higher contribution of groundwater to river water." This is statement is incorrect, do the authors mean the active zone? I do not think the active capacity of permafrost has increased.
~~Line 40. "However, it remains unclear how permafrost changes would alter water storage and movement in permafrost catchment." Is this true? I think there is considerable literature suggesting otherwise.
~~Line 52: "Therefore, the influence of permafrost changes, climatic factors, and vegetation variations on catchment MRT in a high-altitude permafrost catchment is seldom evaluated". This is true, but MRT and water ages have been reported and should be cited.
~~Line 68: "The findings from our study will deepen our understanding of the hydrological process in permafrost regions and will be important for water resources supply and safety in the TP." I am unsure if this manuscript does this. There is little talk of water supply and safety and the last sentence of the introduction should be strengthened.
~~Line 171: the first sentence makes no sense and the first paragraph beginning line 170 is very confusing.
~~Line 178: What other source waters would there be other than precipitation?
~~Line 183. I do not believe Xia et al., 2021 is the appropriate reference.
~~Line 185. I am unsure how the thawing and freezing of soils affects this. More details are needed. Also the next sentence regarding the slower slope associated with longer residence time. This is confusing and I'm not sure correct. The final sentence (line 188/9) also needs appropriate support.
~~Line 212. Appropriate historical reference are needed.
~~Line 214. More information on how freeze-thaw cycles affect isotopic composition are needed if the authors are invoking it.
~~The correlations yield some results that do not make a lot of sense and literature cited is incorrect. For example, line 221-223 not supported, and the Landerer 2010 reference is form a very different scale endnote appropriate.
~~Line 233/4 needs to be rewritten.
~~The paragraph starting Line 235 does not make sense to me. Particularly at the end. Precipitation obviously has an influence on active layer water - I'm not sure what the authors are getting at. Is it that there is no relation between the isotopic composition of active layer waters and precipitation isotopes? If so, this should clearly be stated.
~~It is not clear how the two-component IHS is applied, and how the values are determined. Are the average precipitation values volume weighted? How was snow accounted for? Was the IHS applied for the entire period to get these numbers (62 and 38%?). To compare these results to others in the literature, there is a lot more information that is needed. Did the authors consider IHS among years to assess mechanisms of variability to link to process?
~~Line 271 to 273 are very confusing and need to be rewritten.
~~Line 299/300. "The longer MRT reflects more complex soil water retention 300 and recharge processes (Ma et al., 2019b)." This is not clear at all. Why? A link to process must be made.
~~Line 327 - correct the terminology.
~~Line 329: "These strong correlations indicate that soil and air temperature are potentially efficient predictors of supra-permafrost water MRT". I do not support this statement at all. What is the mechanism? Is it the correlation analysis? It is a bold statement with little support.
~~Line 336: "These results also support the findings from previous studies in terms of a relationship between permafrost changes and residence time. In particular, (Wright et al., 2009) have stated that MRT of permafrost catchments is highly dependent on the annual development of the active layer." I could not find any information on MRT in the Wright paper.
~~Line 350: "The larger precipitation corresponds to lower temperature, yielding a thinner active layer, which, in turn making the active layer water to be saturated sooner". Is this with respect to this study? This is no a general or predicted finding.
~~ Line 357: "Interestingly, we found that the stream and supra-permafrost water MRT are both negatively correlated with NDVI (R2= 0.29 and 0.53, respectively)" The entire issue of linking MRT to 'factors' in a regression analysis is flawed. Processes and explanations must be provided. Why would this be? There is some speculation but this could easily be spurious.
~~ Line 364: "However, it remains unclear whether a positive feedback mechanism exists between vegetation and permafrost active layer changes or not." There is considerable literature on this that should be referenced.
~~ Line 365: "Moreover, the optimum residence time for vegetation growth should be elucidated in future studies as well." I am unsure as to what the authors mean.
~~ Line 371: "It can be deduced that the estimated MRT of supra-permafrost water is valuable for evaluating the extent of permafrost degradation. Most importantly, it can be used to infer the effects of long-term climate, permafrost changes, and vegetation on the hydrologic regime in permafrost regions." This sentence is clearly wishful thinking and I am not sure the authors have shown this at all. If they have, they need to suggest how and why and what the implications are.
~~Table 5. The data in this table is highly specific and incorrectly applies correlation methods within and among data sets.
~~References: The authors reference largely literature from China when discussing general permafrost hydrological knowledge. While I am not dismissing any of this work, suggesting that permafrost acts as an aquiclude, then citing Gao et al. 2021. This is not 'new information' and has been identified for many decades in the North American and Russian literature. Perhaps it has also been long-identified in the Chinese literature, and I would suggest the authors here and elsewhere cite appropriate historical works as opposed to ones focussed on the TP unless the work is directly related to processes in the TP and not ones that are more general.
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', He Xiaobo, 22 Aug 2022
Status: closed
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RC1: 'Comment on tc-2022-17', Anonymous Referee #1, 15 Jun 2022
This study uses stable water isotopes to look at the mean residence time (MRT) for a catchment in the Tibetan Plateau. The novelty here is the long-term nature of the data series being leveraged for the MRT estimate as these types of sampling campaigns are challenging to coordinate in cold and alpine regions.
The study is well written and well structured making it easy to read. Still, I do struggle some with the uniqueness of the study presented as while these data types of are challenge to collect and not often presented in the literature, there is a question of what we learn here for this catchment that advances beyond previous regional efforts like in Song et al. (2017)? I think bringing forward the improved process understanding in face of the possible uncertainty is needed here to move this manuscript beyond a presentation of the uniqueness of place that leverages data alone.
One aspect that needs attention is the intercomparison of MRTs between various catchments and studies presented in the manuscript. I appreciate the effort and thinking to place this one catchment in a broader context; however, the different methods and models used when estimating MRT can have significant impacts on the resolution MRT and the entire travel time distribution. Caution is needed when comparing absolute MRT with other catchments. I think if the authors want to keep these comparisons, more information needs to be added (like a column or two in Table 4) indicating the model type and technique used to estimate MRT. Further, a richer discussion of the impacts of the modeling assumptions should be provided as they pertain to this region. There has been significant research and literature on these topics over the last decades and it seems some of the more modern interpretations are missing from this study. All in all, I would anticipate a more thoughtful consideration of the assumptions behind the convolution approach you are implementing here.
In addition, if there is a connection between the MRT and the unique processes in permafrost environment, it would be more insightful to describe them explicitly. Modeling literature (e.g. Frampton and Destouni, 2015) exists on the subject and would help reduce the ambiguity connecting water movement and process as they are considered in this study. Further, and connected with this comment, there is need to separate the result and discussion section in to two separate sections. Given the amount of data being presented and the analysis put forward, plenty of material for results. Also, mixing the two sections together as is currently done creates confusion about what your data show and how you are interpreting it relative to the science. And it would be good in a separate section of the discussion to consider more the potential limitations of the current study as they pertain to assumptions, data representativeness and the models being considered.
Given the complexity of sampling precipitation in cold regions, more information is needed to help the reader understand how you were sampling here. For example, were how was snow treated throughout the sampling? Were snowpacks or snow melt water collected and considered as inputs in any sense? Also, looking at the variation in elevation in the region, how representative of the catchment is the one meteorological station and precipitation sampling location? Rainfall isotopic composition is rather variable with elevation and snowpack and snow melt rates are really variable. How is the isotopic input variability considered within this study? It seems ignored based on the methodology presented.
The input variability and source water variability of only having one location for monitoring supra-permafrost water sampling seems as if it could confound the results and interpretation to some extent. Specifically, if there are large frozen regions upstream of the stream sampling location, these would have significant impacts on the ability of precipitation to transfer to the stream over the entire catchment. Variability of isotopic compositions in springs and sub-watersheds is well documented (e.g. Lyon et al. 2018). The spatial variability at play in the catchment must be either accounted for or the potential impacts at least taking into consideration via discussion within this study.
Finally, some consideration of uncertainty should be presented. There are several fitted relationships that are being compared across the research. In and of themselves, these are wrought with uncertainty and confidence intervals that can impact the significance of the findings. I would want to see some assessment of the robustness of the results relative to the uncertainty or lack of representativeness of the data being presented. At the least, the two-component hydrograph can directly incorporate the uncertainty via the approach put forward by Genereux (1998). Without characterization of the uncertainty, I am left wondering how much of the results is driven by under-represented variability in the sampling at a catchment scale, the simplifying assumptions within the model, and the fitted equations that smooth out all the between event variability and extremes. That last point is rather important given potential flashy nature of these systems during certain times of the year and more dampened responses as the systems thaw seasonally.
Minor Comments
L100: This sentence is random and does not make sense here. Further, not sure what you men with efficiently?
L171: This first sentence is odd. Separate the results and discussions to increase presentation clarity.
References
Frampton, A., and G. Destouni (2015), Impact of degrading permafrost on subsurface solute transport pathways and travel times, Water Resour. Res.,51,7680–7701, doi:10.1002/2014WR016689.
Genereux, D., 1998. Quantifying uncertainty in tracer-based hydrograph separations. Water Resourses Research, 34 (4), 915–919. doi:10.1029/98WR00010
Lyon, S.W., S.W. Ploum, Y. van der Velde, G. Rocher-Ros, C.M. Mörth, R. Giesler (2018) Lessons learned from monitoring the stable water isotopic variability in precipitation and streamflow across a snow-dominated sub-arctic catchment, Arctic, Antarctic, and Alpine Research, 50(1), e1454778, https://doi.org/10.1080/15230430.2018.1454778.
Song, C., Wang, G., Liu, G., Mao, T., Sun, X., and Chen, X.: Stable isotope variations of precipitation and streamflow reveal the young water fraction of a permafrost watershed, Hydrological Processes, 31, 935–947, https://doi.org/10.1002/h 485 yp.11077, 2017.
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', He Xiaobo, 22 Aug 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on tc-2022-17', Anonymous Referee #2, 10 Jul 2022
The paper by Wang and co-authors entitled "Estimation of water residence time in a permafrost catchment in the Central Tibetan Plateau using long-term water stable isotopic data" leverages a unique data set in a remote environment to shed light on the 'mean residence time' (MRT) of groundwater and stream water using transit time approaches. They seek to highlight how the active layer and permafrost influence MRT and draw inferences on permafrost hydrology.
The paper is well written and clear. The figures are straight-forward and interpretable. I have a number of editorial comments at the end, yet I have considerable concerns about the analysis that I believe must be addressed before this manuscript is suitable for publication. The data is novel and is of considerable value to the hydrological and permafrost community, yet there are large uncertainties and at times I believe mis-application of methods that the authors need to consider before this manuscript is suitable for publication.
General Comments:
~~The authors use the exponential model as opposed to the more widely used gamma distribution. I am curious as to why this is. This will have considerable impact on the MRT calculation and should be discussed.
~~The correlation analysis is highly flawed and must be revisited. It appears the authors use any type of correlation against variables with different units, etc., to 'look around for relationships'. This is not statistically robust in any way. Values must be transposed/normalized to compare among factors, and the type of correlation must be explained. Figure 6 shows two 'best fit' lines with either low or no relationships. This is a regression analysis. Furthermore, this data is ALL serially correlated which needs to be accounted for. As it stands, the authors have a lot of work to do to justify this analytical approach. Binning data together from across seasons, etc., truly make this confounding as the active layer changes.
~~More information on the IHS method is needed.
~~More appropriate literature is needed, along with less bold statements about the importance/influence of this work.
~~Many of the conclusions are not supported by the data.
Line Comments:
~~Line 36. "The progressive increase of the permafrost active layer thickness has exacerbated the increased water storage capacity of permafrost and exerted a higher contribution of groundwater to river water." This is statement is incorrect, do the authors mean the active zone? I do not think the active capacity of permafrost has increased.
~~Line 40. "However, it remains unclear how permafrost changes would alter water storage and movement in permafrost catchment." Is this true? I think there is considerable literature suggesting otherwise.
~~Line 52: "Therefore, the influence of permafrost changes, climatic factors, and vegetation variations on catchment MRT in a high-altitude permafrost catchment is seldom evaluated". This is true, but MRT and water ages have been reported and should be cited.
~~Line 68: "The findings from our study will deepen our understanding of the hydrological process in permafrost regions and will be important for water resources supply and safety in the TP." I am unsure if this manuscript does this. There is little talk of water supply and safety and the last sentence of the introduction should be strengthened.
~~Line 171: the first sentence makes no sense and the first paragraph beginning line 170 is very confusing.
~~Line 178: What other source waters would there be other than precipitation?
~~Line 183. I do not believe Xia et al., 2021 is the appropriate reference.
~~Line 185. I am unsure how the thawing and freezing of soils affects this. More details are needed. Also the next sentence regarding the slower slope associated with longer residence time. This is confusing and I'm not sure correct. The final sentence (line 188/9) also needs appropriate support.
~~Line 212. Appropriate historical reference are needed.
~~Line 214. More information on how freeze-thaw cycles affect isotopic composition are needed if the authors are invoking it.
~~The correlations yield some results that do not make a lot of sense and literature cited is incorrect. For example, line 221-223 not supported, and the Landerer 2010 reference is form a very different scale endnote appropriate.
~~Line 233/4 needs to be rewritten.
~~The paragraph starting Line 235 does not make sense to me. Particularly at the end. Precipitation obviously has an influence on active layer water - I'm not sure what the authors are getting at. Is it that there is no relation between the isotopic composition of active layer waters and precipitation isotopes? If so, this should clearly be stated.
~~It is not clear how the two-component IHS is applied, and how the values are determined. Are the average precipitation values volume weighted? How was snow accounted for? Was the IHS applied for the entire period to get these numbers (62 and 38%?). To compare these results to others in the literature, there is a lot more information that is needed. Did the authors consider IHS among years to assess mechanisms of variability to link to process?
~~Line 271 to 273 are very confusing and need to be rewritten.
~~Line 299/300. "The longer MRT reflects more complex soil water retention 300 and recharge processes (Ma et al., 2019b)." This is not clear at all. Why? A link to process must be made.
~~Line 327 - correct the terminology.
~~Line 329: "These strong correlations indicate that soil and air temperature are potentially efficient predictors of supra-permafrost water MRT". I do not support this statement at all. What is the mechanism? Is it the correlation analysis? It is a bold statement with little support.
~~Line 336: "These results also support the findings from previous studies in terms of a relationship between permafrost changes and residence time. In particular, (Wright et al., 2009) have stated that MRT of permafrost catchments is highly dependent on the annual development of the active layer." I could not find any information on MRT in the Wright paper.
~~Line 350: "The larger precipitation corresponds to lower temperature, yielding a thinner active layer, which, in turn making the active layer water to be saturated sooner". Is this with respect to this study? This is no a general or predicted finding.
~~ Line 357: "Interestingly, we found that the stream and supra-permafrost water MRT are both negatively correlated with NDVI (R2= 0.29 and 0.53, respectively)" The entire issue of linking MRT to 'factors' in a regression analysis is flawed. Processes and explanations must be provided. Why would this be? There is some speculation but this could easily be spurious.
~~ Line 364: "However, it remains unclear whether a positive feedback mechanism exists between vegetation and permafrost active layer changes or not." There is considerable literature on this that should be referenced.
~~ Line 365: "Moreover, the optimum residence time for vegetation growth should be elucidated in future studies as well." I am unsure as to what the authors mean.
~~ Line 371: "It can be deduced that the estimated MRT of supra-permafrost water is valuable for evaluating the extent of permafrost degradation. Most importantly, it can be used to infer the effects of long-term climate, permafrost changes, and vegetation on the hydrologic regime in permafrost regions." This sentence is clearly wishful thinking and I am not sure the authors have shown this at all. If they have, they need to suggest how and why and what the implications are.
~~Table 5. The data in this table is highly specific and incorrectly applies correlation methods within and among data sets.
~~References: The authors reference largely literature from China when discussing general permafrost hydrological knowledge. While I am not dismissing any of this work, suggesting that permafrost acts as an aquiclude, then citing Gao et al. 2021. This is not 'new information' and has been identified for many decades in the North American and Russian literature. Perhaps it has also been long-identified in the Chinese literature, and I would suggest the authors here and elsewhere cite appropriate historical works as opposed to ones focussed on the TP unless the work is directly related to processes in the TP and not ones that are more general.
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', He Xiaobo, 22 Aug 2022
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Long-term water stable isotope data and water residence time in the Central Tibetan Plateau Shaoyong Wang, Xiaobo He, Shichang Kang, and Hui Fu https://figshare.com/articles/dataset/IsoMRTTP/19172765
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