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Filling and drainage of a subglacial lake beneath the Flade Isblink ice cap, northeast Greenland
- 1School of Geospatial Engineering and Science, Sun Yat-sen University & Southern Marine Science and Engineering Guangdong Laboratory (Zhuhai), Zhuhai, Guangdong, China
- 2Byrd Polar and Climate Research Center, Columbus, OH, USA
- 3School of Earth Sciences, Ohio State University, Columbus, OH, USA
- 1School of Geospatial Engineering and Science, Sun Yat-sen University & Southern Marine Science and Engineering Guangdong Laboratory (Zhuhai), Zhuhai, Guangdong, China
- 2Byrd Polar and Climate Research Center, Columbus, OH, USA
- 3School of Earth Sciences, Ohio State University, Columbus, OH, USA
Abstract. The generation, transport, storage and drainage of meltwater beneath the ice sheet play important roles in the Greenland ice sheet (GrIS) system. Active subglacial lakes, common features in Antarctica, have recently been detected beneath GrIS and may impact ice sheet hydrology. Despite their potential importance, few repeat subglacial lake filling and drainage events have been identified under Greenland Ice Sheet. Here we examine the surface elevation change of a collapse basin at the Flade Isblink ice cap, northeast Greenland, which formed due to sudden subglacial lake drainage in 2011. We estimate the subglacial lake volume evolution using multi-temporal ArcticDEM data and ICESat-2 altimetry data acquired between 2012 and 2021. Our long-term observations show that the subglacial lake was continuously filled by surface meltwater, with basin surface rising by up to 55 m during 2012–2021 and we estimate 138.2 × 106 m3 of meltwater was transported into the subglacial lake between 2012 and 2017. A second rapid drainage event occurred in late August 2019, which induced an abrupt ice dynamic response. Comparison between the two drainage events shows that the 2019 drainage released much less water than the 2011 event. We conclude that multiple factors, e.g., the volume of water stored in the subglacial lake and bedrock relief, regulate the episodic filling and drainage of the lake. By comparing the surface meltwater production and the subglacial lake volume change, we find only ~64 % of the surface meltwater successfully descended to the bed, suggesting potential processes such as meltwater refreezing and firn aquifer storage, need to be further quantified.
Qi Liang et al.
Status: closed
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RC1: 'Comment on tc-2021-374', Anonymous Referee #1, 21 Feb 2022
Review of “Filling and drainage of a subglacial lake beneath the Flade Isblink ice cap, northeast Greenland” by Liang and others submitted to The Cryosphere.
Liang and others report the filling and drainage of a collapse basin at the Flade Isblink ice cap in northeast Greenland. The study builds on the investigations by Willis et al. (2015), who show that the basin was formed in 2011 by sudden subglacial lake drainages. Lian and others extend the time series of the observations made by Willis et al. (2015) with surface elevation estimates on the basis of digital elevation models of ArcticDEM and ALOS data as well as ICESat-2 laser altimetry. They show that the ice surface of the collapsed basin rose by 55 m after the drainage event in 2011. The authors link the ice surface uplift with a refilling of the subglacial lake and ice flowing into the basin. Furthermore, they correlate the amount of water needed for the refilling with the amount of surface meltwater produced at the ice surface.
In summary, I believe that this manuscript is an important contribution to the literature on subglacial water activity of the Greenland Ice Sheet and Greenlands smaller ice caps and fits into the scope of The Cryosphere. The manuscript is overall clearly written, and the results are well presented, however, some of the statements made need some clarification. Overall, I believe that the manuscripts, with some modifications and clarifications, merits publishing.
_________________________________________________________________________________1. General comments
The scientific quality of the work presented is generally strong, with good associated analysis and discussion. The methodology is almost completely inspired by the Willis et al. (2015) paper, which is probably not very innovative but has the advantage that it is an appropriate continuation of the observations made at this ice cap. Furthermore, the methods are in most parts clearly described, which enable others to reproduce the results. The figures are of good quality and appropriate. The paper structure is generally easy to follow and is mostly clearly written and clear in its conclusions.
Main points:
1) Introduction
The introduction provides useful information about the study region and subglacial lakes in Greenland. However, I think a paragraph describing the versatile methods, which have been used to detect subglacial lake activity (even though most of them are located in Antarctica) should also be introduced here to give the reader an impression of what is available and what you are using in your study. In addition to laser altimetry and DEMs it would be useful to complement these two methods with:- SAR tracking e.g., Joghin et al. (2016); https://doi.org/10.1002/2016GL070259
- InSAR: Neckel et al. (2021); https://doi.org/10.1029/2021GL094472 and Gray et al. (2005); https://doi.org/10.1029/2004GL021387
2) Figure 2
This is a great figure and shows that the authors have put a lot of thought into how they present their results. However, there is a lot of information and a lot of lines with all colours of the colour spectrum. I have a suggestion on how the results you describe maybe a little bit easier to visualize:- What about if subfigures (b-e) are split into two columns, where you show in the left column the same style of figure, but only showing the ice surface rise until 2019. In the second column, you can show then the ice surface subsidence and the following uplift in 2020.
- For the plots in the right column, you could still show the lines from the uplift before 2019 in slight grey or so in the background. This might be a way to disentangle the two processes you describe: the steady uplift and the sudden drainage in 2019 and continuous filling thereafter.
3) Throughout the manuscript, not enough attention is paid to the fact that the Flade Isblink ice cap is not directly connected to the rest of the Greenland Ice Sheet. Here it should be ensured that this is generally separated and argued in such a way that the results and interpretations of this study, however, can of course be applied to the Greenland Ice Sheet and are thus definitely very helpful.
4) Ice inflow into the basin
One thing in the manuscript that I found difficult to understand was the idea that “volume change is mainly caused by ice inflow into the basin” (L109). I finally understood this, when I read the paper of Whillis et al. (2015) where it is explained a little bit better. So that means that the ice inflow that you talk about in your paper is related to the subsidence that occurs around the basin outline in your 1.5m buffer as indicated in Figure 2a. And the most likely interpretation is that this negative volume flows into the basin (because where else should it go). If this is what you mean, I have the following recommendations:- Please explain a little bit better what you mean by “inflow into the basin” and that this concept is taken from the Whillis et al. (2015) manuscript.
- I think it would also be helpful to (for example) plot the 1.5 km buffer in Figure 2a and also visualize with an arrow that all the blue area (the subsidence) is the volume that flows into the basin.
5) Treatment of ice surface flow velocity analysis after the lake drainage (e.g. L127-129 and Figure 6c,d):
I think the analysis of ice velocity variations after the drainage event should be done along a flow line instead of a single point location. At the moment we can just see that “somewhere” downstream of the lake the velocity increased, which makes me very curious what happened up- and downstream of this location (and more importantly when!).6) There is a slight inconsistent usage of the term “Greenland Ice Sheet” and its abbreviation “GrIS”. Please make this consistent:
- “Greenland ice sheet” vs. “Greenland Ice Sheet”
- “GrIS” vs. “the GrIS”
7) Overall the language of the manuscript is clear, but I have the impression that the grammar is not always correct. This should be checked by a native English speaker.
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2. Specific comments
L38-49: Please update the paragraphs information of the current knowledge and database of subglacial lakes in Greenland by the findings of the recent review of Livingstone et al. (2022):
- Livingstone, S. J., Li, Y., Rutishauser, A., Sanderson, R. J., Winter, K., Mikucki, J. A., et al. (2022). Subglacial lakes and their changing role in a warming climate. Nature Reviews Earth & Environment, 1–19. https://doi.org/10.1038/s43017-021-00246-9
L56: Reference “(Willis et al., 2015)” without brackets.
L57: “DEM” is not defined anywhere. Although most of the readers might know what it stands for, it would be good to define it here once.
L59: “[...] this subglacial lake is under the ice cap [...]” should be “[...] this subglacial lake is located under the ice cap [...]”
L234: You state that “The repeat filling and drainage of the subglacial lake is on the scale of ~8 years”. However, then you state later that the lake was probably not completely full in the 2019 drainage event. Also when I have a look at Figure 3 I do not fully have the impression that the small drainage event in 2019 would allow speaking of a real cyclicity of filling and drainage of the lake. I agree that “something happened” in 2019, but when I compare this to the original collapse basin surface in Figure 2, I have more the feeling that the 2019 event was a small outburst, but still in the “filling process” (what you also state later in the conclusions as “partial drainage”. You do later argue that “the repeat filling and drainage is not only decided by the volume of water stored in the subglacial lake but also may be controlled by meltwater input … and bedrock relief …”. However, all this is still very speculative, hence, I recommend removing this statement about the “repeat filling drainage cycle of 8 years”.
L245-248: Here you discuss why it is most likely that “surface meltwater is likely the only supply for this subglacial lake.” I think at this point it should again be made clear that the Flade Isblink ice cap is isolated from the Greenland Ice Sheet and therefore not connected to its subglacial hydrology network, which further supports the idea that supraglacial meltwater that finds its way to the ice-cap bottom is the most likely source for the lake filling.
L261: In the conclusions, you state that: “The long-term measurements show that the subglacial lake was recharged by surface meltwater produced in the melt season”. I think this should be stated as the most likely scenario instead of as a fact. Your observations are good and convincing but are based on remote sensing data only and the hypothesis is mainly based on observations made in other regions in Greenland where supraglacial water reached the bed. Hence, you cannot prove that the water at this ice cap makes its way down to the bed, although you have strong arguments for it. I would recommend stating that this is “the most likely scenario” instead of that the measurements “show” it.
L263-265: Furthermore you state: “Our work demonstrates the potential for subglacial lake to store multi-year meltwater in GrIS, which may affect the ice flow by preventing the transfer of meltwater to the ice sheet margin.” Here, again it should be made clear that this ice cap is not connected to the rest of the GrIS. I think it would be better to state something like that your findings on the ice cap that the subglacial lake can store multi-year meltwater [...] are useful to understand the hydrological processes on the GrIS.
In the end, I would like to thank the authors for the interesting reading.
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Qi Liang, 10 Apr 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on tc-2021-374', Anonymous Referee #2, 03 Mar 2022
Review of “Filling and drainage of a subglacial lake beneath the Flade Isblink ice cap, northeast Greenland” by Liang et al, 2022
The manuscript presents a time-series analysis from 2012-2021 of ice surface elevation change over a subglacial lake beneath the Flade Isblink ice cap. This analysis is a continuation of the initial study and identification of this subglacial lake by Willis et al. (2015), where the lake was identified via a collapsed ice surface indicating rapid lake drainage. Here, surface elevation data from the ArcticDEM and IceSat-2 is used to infer refilling and drainage of the subglacial lake. Ice surface elevation changes are compared to surface meltwater runoff from RACMO to infer the relative amount of surface meltwater input into the subglacial lake. Finally, a speedup of ice surface velocity downstream of the subglacial lake is linked to lake drainage in 2019.
General comments
This is well structured and generally well written manuscript that presents a new and extensive dataset revealing the filling/drainage cycle of a subglacial lake. The data is well presented and the scientific quality of the work is strong. The methods are mostly clear, however, could benefit from a few clarifications. While the manuscript does not represent novel concepts or methods itself, I believe that the observations can help address important scientific questions regarding subglacial lakes, and thus fits well within the scope of The Cryosphere. However, I find that a lot of details in the data/observations are presented, but not thoroughly discussed (for example the switch in surface meltwater drainage pattern after 2012 or the smaller lake drainage volumes in 2019 compared to 2011). This leaves me wondering about the “so what” question, and I believe that the manuscript could put a bit more emphasis on discussing the implications of the findings rather than mostly only presenting the data. Below are some specific points that I believe can be addressed with some minor revisions to improve the manuscript.
- Ice inflow: The concept of surface elevation change due to ice inflow and how this was calculated is not clear. I understand that this is explained in Willis et al, 2015, but I think it would help the reader understand if is briefly explained here.
- Ice surface velocity change: It is unclear why and how this specific small area was chosen to evaluate changes in ice surface velocity. Is this based on where subglacial water routing is expected (e.g. from water routing models)? I believe that it would be better to include a larger area in the analysis, or present velocity time series from multiple locations downstream. Another idea would be to present an additional map (rather than time series) with the velocity difference between January 2019 and July 2019 to infer the velocity changes in the wider region.
- Figure 2: I generally like Figure 2 as one can clearly see the surface elevation rising from 2012-2019. However, the surface lowering in 2019 and uplift afterwards is difficult to see. I suggest separating this time period (2019-2021) into a different graph, maybe in another four subplots to the right? If this way the panels become too small, I suggest putting graph a) and the legend to the bottom of the plot.
- Discussion of surface meltwater drainage change: It would be great to add the location of the meltwater drainage through the crevasses from 2012 to Figure 5, so that the changes can be observed more clearly. If possible, I suggest marking the location of these crevasses on one of the panels in Figure 5 or adding a separate panel from 2012. I am also curious of why there is a change in supraglacial hydrology (e.g. changes in surface slope?), and how the different drainage locations (crevasses at the edge of basin versus drainage through moulin within the basin) would affect the subglacial lake and basin volume changes. I feel that this change in meltwater routing is presented, but then not fully discussed.
- Discussion of lake drainage 2011 vs. 2019: The lake drainage in 2019 is briefly discussed, however, I think that there could be a bit more discussion on the difference in water release between 2011 and 2019. For example, the possibility that the lake is behind a bedrock ridge is mentioned (L238-240), but why would there be a release of all water in 2011 and not in 2019? And are there other observations of partial lake drainage elsewhere? Similarly, it would be interesting to compare the volume/time of water increase/drainage to other subglacial lakes, e.g. using the inventory by Livingstone et al, (2022). And finally, what implications could the remaining water in the subglacial lake have? E.g. would we expect another lake drainage in a few years, and would this cause a speedup or potentially a GLOF?
Livingstone, S. J., Li, Y., Rutishauser, A., Sanderson, R. J., Winter, K., Mikucki, J. A., et al. (2022). Subglacial lakes and their changing role in a warming climate. Nature Reviews Earth & Environment, 1–19. https://doi.org/10.1038/s43017-021-00246-9
- Language/grammar: The manuscript is mostly clear and concisely written, however, there are a few instances where the grammar/language would benefit from some minor editing. I’ve added a few suggestions in the specific comments, but I probably didn’t catch everything.
Specific comments
L20: I suggest replacing “e.g.” with “such as”
L24: I suggest changing to “..,which need to be further quantified”
L38-43, 185: I suggest adding a link to the most recent subglacial lake inventory:
Livingstone, S. J., Li, Y., Rutishauser, A., Sanderson, R. J., Winter, K., Mikucki, J. A., et al. (2022). Subglacial lakes and their changing role in a warming climate. Nature Reviews Earth & Environment, 1–19. https://doi.org/10.1038/s43017-021-00246-9
L45: Previously the abbreviation GrIS is used with “the” GrIS, I suggest making this consistent throughout the text.
L50-54: The figure caption misses a few articles, e.g. “Background und is a Landsat-8…”, “The black box shows the location of b”
L53: I believe that “Blue lines” be replaced with “Black lines” in the text (Figure 2b).
L58: I suggest changing to “as supraglacial meltwater was transported to the ice base, refilling the subglacial lake.”
L59: The sentence structure is a bit misleading; the similar glacial setting of the Flade Isblink ice cap subglacial lake to the GrIS is probably not the “main reason” to study this lake. But studying the Flade Isblink subglacial lake can lead to important improvements in our understanding of subglacial lakes beneath the GrIS. I suggest changing the sentence structure to be more clear.
L75: I suggest outlining the 1500 m buffer zone for the ArcticDEM co-registration to Figure 1b, so that is more clear where this zone is.
L84: I suggest deleting “accurate”
L90: add “…(4 pairs) that pass through…”
L91: I suggest changing “pass” to “passing”
L97-98: It is not clear to me what is meant by “original elevations”, please specify.
L110: It is not entirely clear how the elevation change due to ice inflow is derived. I think adding a brief section to explain the concept and how this was calculated would help the reader better understand.
L120: add “… runoff within the catchment…”
L123: add “acquired during the 2014-202…”
L145: change to km2
L156: change to …” at a rate of …”
L169: It is not entirely clear to me what the volume of the collapse basin contains; Is it the volume between the pre-collapse ice surface and the post-collapse (and rising) ice surface, e.g. filled with air? Or is it the combination of the subglacial lake water and the ice column above? It might be good to clarify this. From the explanation of “decreasing basin volume”, I assume it is the basin volume filled with air. It might also be good to then specify on Figure 4 that the Basin volume change is a volume loss, whereas the ice flow and subglacial lake volume change is a volume gain.
L200: It would be great to show the drainage pattern in 2012 as compared to 2014-16.
L255-257: I appreciate the speculation about the “missing” surface meltwater, but is there any evidence for firn aquifers or ice slabs in this area? From a quick check, it looks like there are some ice slabs marked on the Flade Isblink ice cap by MacFerrin et al. (2019) (dataset here: https://figshare.com/articles/dataset/Greenland_Ice_Slabs_Data/8309777), but it could be worth checking with the exact subglacial lake coordinates.
MacFerrin, M., Machguth, H., As, D. van, Charalampidis, C., Stevens, C. M., Heilig, A., et al. (2019). Rapid expansion of Greenland’s low-permeability ice slabs. Nature, 573(7774), 403–407. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-019-1550-3
Alternatively, could surface meltwater be routed to the bed through moulins/crevasses at other locations, and then flow somewhere else and not into the subglacial lake? Could other supraglacial lake drainage routes to the bed be observed on satellite imagery?
L271: This last sentence seems a bit blunt and out of context. I suggest rephrasing to emphasize that the new satellite data has great potential in detecting and monitoring active subglacial lakes beneath the GrIS.
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Qi Liang, 10 Apr 2022
Status: closed
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RC1: 'Comment on tc-2021-374', Anonymous Referee #1, 21 Feb 2022
Review of “Filling and drainage of a subglacial lake beneath the Flade Isblink ice cap, northeast Greenland” by Liang and others submitted to The Cryosphere.
Liang and others report the filling and drainage of a collapse basin at the Flade Isblink ice cap in northeast Greenland. The study builds on the investigations by Willis et al. (2015), who show that the basin was formed in 2011 by sudden subglacial lake drainages. Lian and others extend the time series of the observations made by Willis et al. (2015) with surface elevation estimates on the basis of digital elevation models of ArcticDEM and ALOS data as well as ICESat-2 laser altimetry. They show that the ice surface of the collapsed basin rose by 55 m after the drainage event in 2011. The authors link the ice surface uplift with a refilling of the subglacial lake and ice flowing into the basin. Furthermore, they correlate the amount of water needed for the refilling with the amount of surface meltwater produced at the ice surface.
In summary, I believe that this manuscript is an important contribution to the literature on subglacial water activity of the Greenland Ice Sheet and Greenlands smaller ice caps and fits into the scope of The Cryosphere. The manuscript is overall clearly written, and the results are well presented, however, some of the statements made need some clarification. Overall, I believe that the manuscripts, with some modifications and clarifications, merits publishing.
_________________________________________________________________________________1. General comments
The scientific quality of the work presented is generally strong, with good associated analysis and discussion. The methodology is almost completely inspired by the Willis et al. (2015) paper, which is probably not very innovative but has the advantage that it is an appropriate continuation of the observations made at this ice cap. Furthermore, the methods are in most parts clearly described, which enable others to reproduce the results. The figures are of good quality and appropriate. The paper structure is generally easy to follow and is mostly clearly written and clear in its conclusions.
Main points:
1) Introduction
The introduction provides useful information about the study region and subglacial lakes in Greenland. However, I think a paragraph describing the versatile methods, which have been used to detect subglacial lake activity (even though most of them are located in Antarctica) should also be introduced here to give the reader an impression of what is available and what you are using in your study. In addition to laser altimetry and DEMs it would be useful to complement these two methods with:- SAR tracking e.g., Joghin et al. (2016); https://doi.org/10.1002/2016GL070259
- InSAR: Neckel et al. (2021); https://doi.org/10.1029/2021GL094472 and Gray et al. (2005); https://doi.org/10.1029/2004GL021387
2) Figure 2
This is a great figure and shows that the authors have put a lot of thought into how they present their results. However, there is a lot of information and a lot of lines with all colours of the colour spectrum. I have a suggestion on how the results you describe maybe a little bit easier to visualize:- What about if subfigures (b-e) are split into two columns, where you show in the left column the same style of figure, but only showing the ice surface rise until 2019. In the second column, you can show then the ice surface subsidence and the following uplift in 2020.
- For the plots in the right column, you could still show the lines from the uplift before 2019 in slight grey or so in the background. This might be a way to disentangle the two processes you describe: the steady uplift and the sudden drainage in 2019 and continuous filling thereafter.
3) Throughout the manuscript, not enough attention is paid to the fact that the Flade Isblink ice cap is not directly connected to the rest of the Greenland Ice Sheet. Here it should be ensured that this is generally separated and argued in such a way that the results and interpretations of this study, however, can of course be applied to the Greenland Ice Sheet and are thus definitely very helpful.
4) Ice inflow into the basin
One thing in the manuscript that I found difficult to understand was the idea that “volume change is mainly caused by ice inflow into the basin” (L109). I finally understood this, when I read the paper of Whillis et al. (2015) where it is explained a little bit better. So that means that the ice inflow that you talk about in your paper is related to the subsidence that occurs around the basin outline in your 1.5m buffer as indicated in Figure 2a. And the most likely interpretation is that this negative volume flows into the basin (because where else should it go). If this is what you mean, I have the following recommendations:- Please explain a little bit better what you mean by “inflow into the basin” and that this concept is taken from the Whillis et al. (2015) manuscript.
- I think it would also be helpful to (for example) plot the 1.5 km buffer in Figure 2a and also visualize with an arrow that all the blue area (the subsidence) is the volume that flows into the basin.
5) Treatment of ice surface flow velocity analysis after the lake drainage (e.g. L127-129 and Figure 6c,d):
I think the analysis of ice velocity variations after the drainage event should be done along a flow line instead of a single point location. At the moment we can just see that “somewhere” downstream of the lake the velocity increased, which makes me very curious what happened up- and downstream of this location (and more importantly when!).6) There is a slight inconsistent usage of the term “Greenland Ice Sheet” and its abbreviation “GrIS”. Please make this consistent:
- “Greenland ice sheet” vs. “Greenland Ice Sheet”
- “GrIS” vs. “the GrIS”
7) Overall the language of the manuscript is clear, but I have the impression that the grammar is not always correct. This should be checked by a native English speaker.
_________________________________________________________________________________
2. Specific comments
L38-49: Please update the paragraphs information of the current knowledge and database of subglacial lakes in Greenland by the findings of the recent review of Livingstone et al. (2022):
- Livingstone, S. J., Li, Y., Rutishauser, A., Sanderson, R. J., Winter, K., Mikucki, J. A., et al. (2022). Subglacial lakes and their changing role in a warming climate. Nature Reviews Earth & Environment, 1–19. https://doi.org/10.1038/s43017-021-00246-9
L56: Reference “(Willis et al., 2015)” without brackets.
L57: “DEM” is not defined anywhere. Although most of the readers might know what it stands for, it would be good to define it here once.
L59: “[...] this subglacial lake is under the ice cap [...]” should be “[...] this subglacial lake is located under the ice cap [...]”
L234: You state that “The repeat filling and drainage of the subglacial lake is on the scale of ~8 years”. However, then you state later that the lake was probably not completely full in the 2019 drainage event. Also when I have a look at Figure 3 I do not fully have the impression that the small drainage event in 2019 would allow speaking of a real cyclicity of filling and drainage of the lake. I agree that “something happened” in 2019, but when I compare this to the original collapse basin surface in Figure 2, I have more the feeling that the 2019 event was a small outburst, but still in the “filling process” (what you also state later in the conclusions as “partial drainage”. You do later argue that “the repeat filling and drainage is not only decided by the volume of water stored in the subglacial lake but also may be controlled by meltwater input … and bedrock relief …”. However, all this is still very speculative, hence, I recommend removing this statement about the “repeat filling drainage cycle of 8 years”.
L245-248: Here you discuss why it is most likely that “surface meltwater is likely the only supply for this subglacial lake.” I think at this point it should again be made clear that the Flade Isblink ice cap is isolated from the Greenland Ice Sheet and therefore not connected to its subglacial hydrology network, which further supports the idea that supraglacial meltwater that finds its way to the ice-cap bottom is the most likely source for the lake filling.
L261: In the conclusions, you state that: “The long-term measurements show that the subglacial lake was recharged by surface meltwater produced in the melt season”. I think this should be stated as the most likely scenario instead of as a fact. Your observations are good and convincing but are based on remote sensing data only and the hypothesis is mainly based on observations made in other regions in Greenland where supraglacial water reached the bed. Hence, you cannot prove that the water at this ice cap makes its way down to the bed, although you have strong arguments for it. I would recommend stating that this is “the most likely scenario” instead of that the measurements “show” it.
L263-265: Furthermore you state: “Our work demonstrates the potential for subglacial lake to store multi-year meltwater in GrIS, which may affect the ice flow by preventing the transfer of meltwater to the ice sheet margin.” Here, again it should be made clear that this ice cap is not connected to the rest of the GrIS. I think it would be better to state something like that your findings on the ice cap that the subglacial lake can store multi-year meltwater [...] are useful to understand the hydrological processes on the GrIS.
In the end, I would like to thank the authors for the interesting reading.
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Qi Liang, 10 Apr 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on tc-2021-374', Anonymous Referee #2, 03 Mar 2022
Review of “Filling and drainage of a subglacial lake beneath the Flade Isblink ice cap, northeast Greenland” by Liang et al, 2022
The manuscript presents a time-series analysis from 2012-2021 of ice surface elevation change over a subglacial lake beneath the Flade Isblink ice cap. This analysis is a continuation of the initial study and identification of this subglacial lake by Willis et al. (2015), where the lake was identified via a collapsed ice surface indicating rapid lake drainage. Here, surface elevation data from the ArcticDEM and IceSat-2 is used to infer refilling and drainage of the subglacial lake. Ice surface elevation changes are compared to surface meltwater runoff from RACMO to infer the relative amount of surface meltwater input into the subglacial lake. Finally, a speedup of ice surface velocity downstream of the subglacial lake is linked to lake drainage in 2019.
General comments
This is well structured and generally well written manuscript that presents a new and extensive dataset revealing the filling/drainage cycle of a subglacial lake. The data is well presented and the scientific quality of the work is strong. The methods are mostly clear, however, could benefit from a few clarifications. While the manuscript does not represent novel concepts or methods itself, I believe that the observations can help address important scientific questions regarding subglacial lakes, and thus fits well within the scope of The Cryosphere. However, I find that a lot of details in the data/observations are presented, but not thoroughly discussed (for example the switch in surface meltwater drainage pattern after 2012 or the smaller lake drainage volumes in 2019 compared to 2011). This leaves me wondering about the “so what” question, and I believe that the manuscript could put a bit more emphasis on discussing the implications of the findings rather than mostly only presenting the data. Below are some specific points that I believe can be addressed with some minor revisions to improve the manuscript.
- Ice inflow: The concept of surface elevation change due to ice inflow and how this was calculated is not clear. I understand that this is explained in Willis et al, 2015, but I think it would help the reader understand if is briefly explained here.
- Ice surface velocity change: It is unclear why and how this specific small area was chosen to evaluate changes in ice surface velocity. Is this based on where subglacial water routing is expected (e.g. from water routing models)? I believe that it would be better to include a larger area in the analysis, or present velocity time series from multiple locations downstream. Another idea would be to present an additional map (rather than time series) with the velocity difference between January 2019 and July 2019 to infer the velocity changes in the wider region.
- Figure 2: I generally like Figure 2 as one can clearly see the surface elevation rising from 2012-2019. However, the surface lowering in 2019 and uplift afterwards is difficult to see. I suggest separating this time period (2019-2021) into a different graph, maybe in another four subplots to the right? If this way the panels become too small, I suggest putting graph a) and the legend to the bottom of the plot.
- Discussion of surface meltwater drainage change: It would be great to add the location of the meltwater drainage through the crevasses from 2012 to Figure 5, so that the changes can be observed more clearly. If possible, I suggest marking the location of these crevasses on one of the panels in Figure 5 or adding a separate panel from 2012. I am also curious of why there is a change in supraglacial hydrology (e.g. changes in surface slope?), and how the different drainage locations (crevasses at the edge of basin versus drainage through moulin within the basin) would affect the subglacial lake and basin volume changes. I feel that this change in meltwater routing is presented, but then not fully discussed.
- Discussion of lake drainage 2011 vs. 2019: The lake drainage in 2019 is briefly discussed, however, I think that there could be a bit more discussion on the difference in water release between 2011 and 2019. For example, the possibility that the lake is behind a bedrock ridge is mentioned (L238-240), but why would there be a release of all water in 2011 and not in 2019? And are there other observations of partial lake drainage elsewhere? Similarly, it would be interesting to compare the volume/time of water increase/drainage to other subglacial lakes, e.g. using the inventory by Livingstone et al, (2022). And finally, what implications could the remaining water in the subglacial lake have? E.g. would we expect another lake drainage in a few years, and would this cause a speedup or potentially a GLOF?
Livingstone, S. J., Li, Y., Rutishauser, A., Sanderson, R. J., Winter, K., Mikucki, J. A., et al. (2022). Subglacial lakes and their changing role in a warming climate. Nature Reviews Earth & Environment, 1–19. https://doi.org/10.1038/s43017-021-00246-9
- Language/grammar: The manuscript is mostly clear and concisely written, however, there are a few instances where the grammar/language would benefit from some minor editing. I’ve added a few suggestions in the specific comments, but I probably didn’t catch everything.
Specific comments
L20: I suggest replacing “e.g.” with “such as”
L24: I suggest changing to “..,which need to be further quantified”
L38-43, 185: I suggest adding a link to the most recent subglacial lake inventory:
Livingstone, S. J., Li, Y., Rutishauser, A., Sanderson, R. J., Winter, K., Mikucki, J. A., et al. (2022). Subglacial lakes and their changing role in a warming climate. Nature Reviews Earth & Environment, 1–19. https://doi.org/10.1038/s43017-021-00246-9
L45: Previously the abbreviation GrIS is used with “the” GrIS, I suggest making this consistent throughout the text.
L50-54: The figure caption misses a few articles, e.g. “Background und is a Landsat-8…”, “The black box shows the location of b”
L53: I believe that “Blue lines” be replaced with “Black lines” in the text (Figure 2b).
L58: I suggest changing to “as supraglacial meltwater was transported to the ice base, refilling the subglacial lake.”
L59: The sentence structure is a bit misleading; the similar glacial setting of the Flade Isblink ice cap subglacial lake to the GrIS is probably not the “main reason” to study this lake. But studying the Flade Isblink subglacial lake can lead to important improvements in our understanding of subglacial lakes beneath the GrIS. I suggest changing the sentence structure to be more clear.
L75: I suggest outlining the 1500 m buffer zone for the ArcticDEM co-registration to Figure 1b, so that is more clear where this zone is.
L84: I suggest deleting “accurate”
L90: add “…(4 pairs) that pass through…”
L91: I suggest changing “pass” to “passing”
L97-98: It is not clear to me what is meant by “original elevations”, please specify.
L110: It is not entirely clear how the elevation change due to ice inflow is derived. I think adding a brief section to explain the concept and how this was calculated would help the reader better understand.
L120: add “… runoff within the catchment…”
L123: add “acquired during the 2014-202…”
L145: change to km2
L156: change to …” at a rate of …”
L169: It is not entirely clear to me what the volume of the collapse basin contains; Is it the volume between the pre-collapse ice surface and the post-collapse (and rising) ice surface, e.g. filled with air? Or is it the combination of the subglacial lake water and the ice column above? It might be good to clarify this. From the explanation of “decreasing basin volume”, I assume it is the basin volume filled with air. It might also be good to then specify on Figure 4 that the Basin volume change is a volume loss, whereas the ice flow and subglacial lake volume change is a volume gain.
L200: It would be great to show the drainage pattern in 2012 as compared to 2014-16.
L255-257: I appreciate the speculation about the “missing” surface meltwater, but is there any evidence for firn aquifers or ice slabs in this area? From a quick check, it looks like there are some ice slabs marked on the Flade Isblink ice cap by MacFerrin et al. (2019) (dataset here: https://figshare.com/articles/dataset/Greenland_Ice_Slabs_Data/8309777), but it could be worth checking with the exact subglacial lake coordinates.
MacFerrin, M., Machguth, H., As, D. van, Charalampidis, C., Stevens, C. M., Heilig, A., et al. (2019). Rapid expansion of Greenland’s low-permeability ice slabs. Nature, 573(7774), 403–407. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-019-1550-3
Alternatively, could surface meltwater be routed to the bed through moulins/crevasses at other locations, and then flow somewhere else and not into the subglacial lake? Could other supraglacial lake drainage routes to the bed be observed on satellite imagery?
L271: This last sentence seems a bit blunt and out of context. I suggest rephrasing to emphasize that the new satellite data has great potential in detecting and monitoring active subglacial lakes beneath the GrIS.
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