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Long term analysis of cryoseismic events and associated ground thermal stress in Adventdalen, Svalbard
- 1Department of Geosciences, University of Tromsø – The Arctic University of Norway, 9037 Tromsø, Norway
- 2NORSAR, Gunnar Randers vei 15, 2007 Kjeller, Norway
- 1Department of Geosciences, University of Tromsø – The Arctic University of Norway, 9037 Tromsø, Norway
- 2NORSAR, Gunnar Randers vei 15, 2007 Kjeller, Norway
Abstract. The small-aperture Spitsbergen seismic array (SPITS) has been in continuous operation at Janssonhaugen for decades. The high Artic location in the Svalbard archipelago makes SPITS an ideal laboratory for the study of cryoseisms, a nontectonic class of seismic events caused by freeze processes in ice, ice-soil and ice-rock materials. We extracted a catalogue of > 100 000 events from the nearly continuous observation period between 2004 and 2021, characterized by short duration ground shaking of just a few seconds. This catalogue contains two main subclasses where one subclass is related to underground coal mining activities and the other is inferred to be dominated by frost quakes resulting from thermal contraction cracking of ice wedges or other segregated ice bodies. This inference is supported by the correspondence between peaks in observed seismicity with peaks in modelled ground thermal stress, based on a Maxwellian thermo-viscoelastic model constrained by borehole observations of ground temperature. The inferred frost quakes appear to be dominated by surface wave energy and SPITS proximal source positions, with three main areas that are associated with dynamic geomorphological features; boulder producing scarps and solifluction lobes. Seismic stations providing year-round, high temporal resolution measurements of ground motion may be highly complementary to satellite remote sensing methods, such as InSAR, for studying the dynamics of periglacial environments. The long-term observational record presented in this study, containing tens of thousands of cryoseismic events, in combination with a detailed record of borehole ground temperature observations, provides a unique insight into the spatiotemporal patterns of cryoseisms. The observed patterns may guide the development of models that can be used to understand future changes to cryoseismicity based on projected temperatures.
Rowan Romeyn et al.
Status: closed
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RC1: 'Comment on tc-2021-329', Anonymous Referee #1, 15 Nov 2021
Review to
Long term analysis of cryoseismic events and associated ground thermal stress in Adventdalen, Svalbard
by Romeyn et al.
Romeyn et al. analyze 17 years of passive seismic data from the SPITS array (Svalbard) to extract a catalog of short duration seismic events (~1s) with the aim to study freeze processes in the subsurface. They find two event classes where one of them appears to be related to anthropogenic coal mining, and the other one to frost cracking – the targeted cryoseisms. The hypothesis of frost-cracking events is supported by the event locations as well as by modeling of the subsurface stress based on temperature time series from a borehole.
This is an interesting study, which gives valuable insights into the dynamics of a periglacial environment, i.e. into processes that are difficult to observe. The authors use a astonishingly long observation period of high quality seismic array data. Combined with their thermal-stress modeling, they present strong evidence, that most of the detected events are caused by thermal contraction cracking. The manuscript is well written, but I think several aspects, in particular on the nature and location of the frost quakes, remain unclear. Together with some more minor comments, I suggest moderate revisions prior to publication. Below I provide all my comments.
General comments
- Detected events and their location:
- I think the nature of the events should be better introduced. In particular, the frequency context is not discussed, nor is clear, which frequency range is actually analyzed. The text mentions, that the STA/LTA detector is applied to 2.5-20 Hz bandpass filtered data, while the location procedure is mentioned to happen in the 5-35 Hz band. I suggest to add details on the event’s frequency content and on the frequencies used.
- The authors use a cross-frequency formulation of matched-field processing to locate the seismic events. This approach favors the spatial coherence of the wavefield across frequency. However, event class I in the manuscript is interpreted to be dominated by surface wave energy, in which case dispersion should work against this spatial coherence. In my opinion, it would be interesting to compare the results of this approach with the classical formulation and a more narrow frequency band, e.g. centered around the dominant frequency of the events. In summary, I think that the robustness of the location results should be assessed.
- The aperture of the array does not seem to be ideal for the analyzed events. Given a minimum interstation distance of roughly 250 m and an aperture of 1 km , as stated in the text, the resolvable wavelength range according to Tokimatsu 1997 (see also Wathelet et al., 2008) is roughly 500-3000 m. Given the frequency range of 2.5-20 Hz (?) and the determined velocities of 1150 m/s (class I) results in considerably smaller wavelengths (while class II events seem well suited for the array aperture). I am not saying this will not work, but there should be some discussion again on the robustness of the results.
- From experience (and this comment is a bit out of curiosity), there is typically some source smearing for events outside the array such that the distance of the sources cannot be well constrained. I would expect this to happen also for the class II events, but it does not seem to be the case. Also from Fig. 4F, the distance seems to be quite well constrained. Can you comment on that?
Reference: Wathelet, M., Jongmans, D., Ohrnberger, M., & Bonnefoy-Claudet, S. (2008). Array performances for ambient vibrations on a shallow structure and consequences over Vs inversion. Journal of Seismology, 12(1), 1-19.
- Terminology: The wording could be more consistent. The text jumps around between e.g. ice wedge and segregation ice or frost quake and cryoseism. If it is not the same that is meant, please further specify each of the concepts.
- Thermal-stress model: It is mentioned, that ignoring some of the temperature dependences (lines 244-248) results in different model formulations, that other studies used previously. Why do you chose this specific model and how would your results be affected by e.g. using the model proposed by Mellon (1997), or Podolskiy et al. (2019)?
Line-specific comments
Line 27: pressure release → stress release?
Lines 39-40: “These structures form …”. I am having trouble to understand this process, maybe consider rewriting this sentence.
Lines 49-57: What’s the difference between ice wedges and segregation ice. As far as I understand one can broadly distinguish them as vertical and horizontal ice structures in the subsurface, respectively? Consider to add some definition here, if applicable.
Line 61: “… InSAR has used …” → has been used
line 73: “This study was motivated” → is motivated
line 73: sporadic? From the paper it seems there are quite many of these events?
Line 96: Maybe add a reference after matched field processing, that describes the “broadband, coherent” approach? Because that’s the special part in this study, right?
Line 127: So the weather station is measuring the air temperature plus the temperature of the ground in 0.1m depth? Please clarify.
Line 131: What do you mean by “first-pass”?
Lines 137 and following: A bit difficult to follow here – for the STA you take the envelopes and smooth them with a 1s sliding windows and for the LTA you smooth this curve once more with a 20s sliding window? Please clarify and maybe rewrite the text.
Line 180: I think it should be the absolute value of the term after the sum. As is, it would be a complex MFP amplitude. Same for equation (7). Please check.
Line 254-256: So you basically do a forward modeling using the measured temperature time series at a certain depth (and the parameters from Table 1) to calculate the resulting stress at this depth? If so, maybe strengthen this point here.
Line 280: So only less than 100 events were recorded by less than five stations and thus discarded?
Line 293: “are” is missing before “associated”
Line 294: I see that compared to your previous study, nine seismic stations can be considered an array that coarsely samples the spatial domain, but I think this cannot be considered a general statement. Maybe relate this to your previous study.
Line 319: delete “due”, same in line 326.
Line 330, Fig. 6 and especially Fig. 7: Interestingly, the three main source clusters of class I events are centered exactly around three of the array stations. This looks a bit suspicious to me, could this be an artifact in the MFP results, can you comment on this?
Line 341 and following: This relates to a previous comment: To calculate the stress at a certain depth, does only a single temperature time series from this particular depth enter the calculation, or does it also include the vertical temperature gradient? What does the word “combination” in line342 imply?
Line 353: “Figure 9 …” → Figure 9a. It would also be interesting to show the event rate (e.g. events/day) as a line together with the calculated stress in Fig. 9b.
Figures
Figure 2: It took me a while to understand what’s actually shown, since this is a continuous time series split into several subfigures. I would either merge the graphs of each row and/or write the year as text into the graphs, to make it easier for the reader.
Figure 3: a) and b) are missing, but are referenced in the text. Also, in the caption, please provide more detail on what is actually shown.
Fig 4: The crosses of the stations are hardly visible in subplots g, h, i
Fig 6: The seasonality is hard to see from the figure. I suggest to give the total number of events shown in each panel e.g. in their titles.
Fig 7b-d: Being non-trained in this, it is difficult for me to spot the boulder producing scarps and solifluction lobes. Consider adding annotations to the images.
Fig 10: Maybe it would be better to show the event detection rate as a line instead of the vertical bars? What is the apparent stress? Please specify.
Fig 11: I think it would be instructive to show only the class I events and again maybe as a line or as bars. You have shown that earlier, that class II events are independent of the thermal stress, so it would be better to focus on your finding that the closeby events are related to the stress.
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Rowan Romeyn, 01 Feb 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on tc-2021-329', Babak Ravaji, 13 Dec 2021
The authors of the manuscript “Long term analysis of cryoseismic events and associated ground thermal stress in Adventdalen, Svalbard” performed a study on a large temperature and seismic database of Adventdalen valley on the island of Spitsbergen, gathered in the past two decades. The seismic data are then evaluated using STA/LTA and MFP approaches to a) filter out cryoseismic events and distinguish them from the mine activities and b) figure out the activity source location. The spatiotemporal temperature data are used to compute the stress history at different depths of the ice layer. Elastic, thermal and viscous strains drive the stress calculations. A simple fracture model is used to predict the possible cracks and cryoseismic events and compare them to the recorded seismic data. The authors concluded that there is good agreement between the model predictions and the recorded data.
In my opinion, the current manuscript lacks enough novelty and depth to get published in The Cryosphere journal. I do not have enough expertise to judge the MFP calculations section, but I hope the comments I made for the thermal stress and fracture sections help the authors to elevate the existing manuscript to The Cryosphere journal-level quality.
I added my comments to the pdf version of the manuscript and copy them here for your convenience as well.
- The Introduction is not coherent. I could not find a clear bridge between paragraphs, and also the relation between written paragraphs and the paper’s goal is not clear to me.
- Figure 2 needs more description. I assume each sub-plot corresponds to a certain year; you need to show that in the figure or caption.
- Figure 3: It would be nice if you zoom in into one of the detected events for better clarity of your method.
- Figure 6: It is hard to distinguish differences between seasons only by checking these contours. Adding numbers to either image or in the caption would help readers to notice the fluctuations across seasons.
- Page 16, 325: Your justification here to exclude summer-autumn events from your study does not seem sufficient to me. I am looking for better justification in the rest of your paper….
- Page 16, 330: Again, the justifications in this paragraph are not enough and lack scientific statements. At least, I as a reader, expect to know what type of data you need to draw a more accurate conclusion.
- Figure 8: I suggest reducing the legend of the plot to -0.5-1.5 for better contrast. I do not see values below -0.25 in the contour plots.
- Section 4.2: What are the initial and boundary conditions for solving equation 12?
- Page 17, 345: I do not understand how you associated the 20-30cm regolith to the peak stress in the ice above it. How the peak stress in the ice could lead to high stress in the rocks beneath it?
- Figure 9: I am interested to see the contribution of each strain portion (elastic, thermal, viscoelastic) into the total stress where ever you report the stress value (Figs 8-11).
- Page 20, 395: This paragraph suits better in the conclusion section.
- Section Conclusion: This section is better to be named Summary rather than Conclusion. To enrich your paper's conclusion section (which should be the most important section) I suggest discussing pros/cons of your thermal and MFP model, potential improvements of your work, and maybe possibilities to apply your model to other geographical locations…
- I am curious if you noticed any pattern in the recorded quakes for daytime versus night times (heating vs. cooling periods)?
Best regards,
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Rowan Romeyn, 01 Feb 2022
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RC3: 'Comment on tc-2021-329', Anonymous Referee #3, 17 Dec 2021
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://tc.copernicus.org/preprints/tc-2021-329/tc-2021-329-RC3-supplement.pdf
- AC3: 'Reply on RC3', Rowan Romeyn, 01 Feb 2022
- AC5: 'Reply on RC3 - fix', Rowan Romeyn, 01 Feb 2022
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RC4: 'Comment on tc-2021-329', Anonymous Referee #4, 05 Jan 2022
Romeyn et al. presents novel and long time series of data on seismic events in a permafrost environment. The data analysis clearly distinguishes two kinds of events, derived from mining activities and natural sources (cryoseisms). The results are very interesting and worth publishing in The Cryosphere. In terms of periglacial geomorphology, however, I would suggest several corrections and clarifications, mainly on the terminology and data interpretation.
Major comments
1. Thermal contraction cracking and frost cracking appear to be confused (e.g., in Section 4.2): Please distinguish between frost cracking (which occurs when ground is ‘freezing’ and by a mechanism similar to frost heaving) and thermal contraction cracking (which occurs when ‘frozen’ ground is subjected to rapid cooling. Frost cracking associated with segregated ice tends to produce horizontal cracks which can result in rock fragmentation with repeated freeze-thaw cycles over thousands of years. In contrast, thermal contraction cracking produces vertical cracks with spacing of several meters and may not contribute to rock fragmentation (regolith formation).
2. Add more detailed geomorphological information: Boulder-producing scarps (‘rockwalls’ are more popular) and solifluction lobes are regarded as major sources of summer events, but these landforms cannot be identified on the air photographs (Fig. 7b-d). Perhaps on-site photographs or 3D models show more clear features.
3. Natural seismic events apart from thermal contraction cracking: Solifluction lobes are considered one of the possible sources of seismic events both in Abstract and Conclusion, but how does solifluction (slow soil deformation) produce seismic events? Landslides (active-layer detachment slides) may also be a possible source of summer events? Note that observations at nearby sites within Adventdalen shows that seasonal frost heave is most active in September or October and thaw subsidence in June (Harris et al., 2011; Watanabe et al., 2012), which seems to coincide with some peaks of the summer seismic events.
Specific comments
Line 43: Polygonal arrangement is primary represented by ‘troughs’ between a pair of ridges. Separated by troughs, ridges do not show polygonal array.
Line 54: Solifluction results from frost ‘heaving’ and creep.
Line 57: ‘asymmetrical trajectory of soil’ rather than asymmetry between the heaving forces?
Line 111: ‘indicating the presence of sand/ice wedges’: If the polygons are small (e.g., <3 m in diameter), they could be produced by desiccation cracking or cryoturbation within the active layer and sand/ice-wedges may be absent.
Line 199: Lachenbruch (1962) first proposed the visco-elastic behavior of ice-wedge polygons, so it should be cited here.
Line 262 (also Table 1): Why tensile strength of polycrystalline ice is used? Strength may be larger in frozen soil and at lower temperature (e.g., 2-7 MPa: Haynes & Karalius, 1977) and even more in frozen bedrock.
Figure 4: Improve the complicated units of distance. The northing distance is given by 106 m, but the easting by 105 m. I suggest both axes are given by a clearer unit like km.
Line 318: ‘lowest during summer’: but still high at Location 9?
Line 321: Landslides (active-layer detachment slides) can be added as a trigger?
Line 330: Boulder-producing scarps (‘rockwalls’ are a more popular term) and solifluction lobes: See the major comment 2.
Line 348: See the major comment 1.
Line 366: ‘Thermal contraction cracking of segregated ice bodies’: I cannot understand why segregated ice body is required for cryoseisms.
Line 368: ‘most likely rockfalls’: How about solifluction or landslides? (see major comment 3)
Line 373 (Figure 10b): ‘modelled number of frost quakes’: Are they counted when thermal stress exceeds 1.0 MPa?
Line 382: ‘including the inherently stochastic nature of seismicity’: Spatial variability of thermal conditions may be the primary factor of the deviation, since the modelled frost quakes are derived from temperature data at only one location?
Line 386: ‘the periods 17-26 Feb 2010 and 7-16 Feb, 2012’: Note that thermal contraction cracking was very active at down-valley sites during these two periods (see Matsuoka et al., 2018: Fig. 12).
Line 418: How does solifluction produce seismic events? See major comment 3.
References
Harris C et al., 2011, Permafrost and Periglacial Processes, 22, 239–253.
Haynes FD and Karalius JA, 1977, Effect of temperature on the strength of frozen silt. CRREL Report 77-3.
Watababe T et al., 2012. Geografiska Annaler, Ser. A, 94, 445–457.
- AC4: 'Reply on RC4', Rowan Romeyn, 01 Feb 2022
Status: closed
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RC1: 'Comment on tc-2021-329', Anonymous Referee #1, 15 Nov 2021
Review to
Long term analysis of cryoseismic events and associated ground thermal stress in Adventdalen, Svalbard
by Romeyn et al.
Romeyn et al. analyze 17 years of passive seismic data from the SPITS array (Svalbard) to extract a catalog of short duration seismic events (~1s) with the aim to study freeze processes in the subsurface. They find two event classes where one of them appears to be related to anthropogenic coal mining, and the other one to frost cracking – the targeted cryoseisms. The hypothesis of frost-cracking events is supported by the event locations as well as by modeling of the subsurface stress based on temperature time series from a borehole.
This is an interesting study, which gives valuable insights into the dynamics of a periglacial environment, i.e. into processes that are difficult to observe. The authors use a astonishingly long observation period of high quality seismic array data. Combined with their thermal-stress modeling, they present strong evidence, that most of the detected events are caused by thermal contraction cracking. The manuscript is well written, but I think several aspects, in particular on the nature and location of the frost quakes, remain unclear. Together with some more minor comments, I suggest moderate revisions prior to publication. Below I provide all my comments.
General comments
- Detected events and their location:
- I think the nature of the events should be better introduced. In particular, the frequency context is not discussed, nor is clear, which frequency range is actually analyzed. The text mentions, that the STA/LTA detector is applied to 2.5-20 Hz bandpass filtered data, while the location procedure is mentioned to happen in the 5-35 Hz band. I suggest to add details on the event’s frequency content and on the frequencies used.
- The authors use a cross-frequency formulation of matched-field processing to locate the seismic events. This approach favors the spatial coherence of the wavefield across frequency. However, event class I in the manuscript is interpreted to be dominated by surface wave energy, in which case dispersion should work against this spatial coherence. In my opinion, it would be interesting to compare the results of this approach with the classical formulation and a more narrow frequency band, e.g. centered around the dominant frequency of the events. In summary, I think that the robustness of the location results should be assessed.
- The aperture of the array does not seem to be ideal for the analyzed events. Given a minimum interstation distance of roughly 250 m and an aperture of 1 km , as stated in the text, the resolvable wavelength range according to Tokimatsu 1997 (see also Wathelet et al., 2008) is roughly 500-3000 m. Given the frequency range of 2.5-20 Hz (?) and the determined velocities of 1150 m/s (class I) results in considerably smaller wavelengths (while class II events seem well suited for the array aperture). I am not saying this will not work, but there should be some discussion again on the robustness of the results.
- From experience (and this comment is a bit out of curiosity), there is typically some source smearing for events outside the array such that the distance of the sources cannot be well constrained. I would expect this to happen also for the class II events, but it does not seem to be the case. Also from Fig. 4F, the distance seems to be quite well constrained. Can you comment on that?
Reference: Wathelet, M., Jongmans, D., Ohrnberger, M., & Bonnefoy-Claudet, S. (2008). Array performances for ambient vibrations on a shallow structure and consequences over Vs inversion. Journal of Seismology, 12(1), 1-19.
- Terminology: The wording could be more consistent. The text jumps around between e.g. ice wedge and segregation ice or frost quake and cryoseism. If it is not the same that is meant, please further specify each of the concepts.
- Thermal-stress model: It is mentioned, that ignoring some of the temperature dependences (lines 244-248) results in different model formulations, that other studies used previously. Why do you chose this specific model and how would your results be affected by e.g. using the model proposed by Mellon (1997), or Podolskiy et al. (2019)?
Line-specific comments
Line 27: pressure release → stress release?
Lines 39-40: “These structures form …”. I am having trouble to understand this process, maybe consider rewriting this sentence.
Lines 49-57: What’s the difference between ice wedges and segregation ice. As far as I understand one can broadly distinguish them as vertical and horizontal ice structures in the subsurface, respectively? Consider to add some definition here, if applicable.
Line 61: “… InSAR has used …” → has been used
line 73: “This study was motivated” → is motivated
line 73: sporadic? From the paper it seems there are quite many of these events?
Line 96: Maybe add a reference after matched field processing, that describes the “broadband, coherent” approach? Because that’s the special part in this study, right?
Line 127: So the weather station is measuring the air temperature plus the temperature of the ground in 0.1m depth? Please clarify.
Line 131: What do you mean by “first-pass”?
Lines 137 and following: A bit difficult to follow here – for the STA you take the envelopes and smooth them with a 1s sliding windows and for the LTA you smooth this curve once more with a 20s sliding window? Please clarify and maybe rewrite the text.
Line 180: I think it should be the absolute value of the term after the sum. As is, it would be a complex MFP amplitude. Same for equation (7). Please check.
Line 254-256: So you basically do a forward modeling using the measured temperature time series at a certain depth (and the parameters from Table 1) to calculate the resulting stress at this depth? If so, maybe strengthen this point here.
Line 280: So only less than 100 events were recorded by less than five stations and thus discarded?
Line 293: “are” is missing before “associated”
Line 294: I see that compared to your previous study, nine seismic stations can be considered an array that coarsely samples the spatial domain, but I think this cannot be considered a general statement. Maybe relate this to your previous study.
Line 319: delete “due”, same in line 326.
Line 330, Fig. 6 and especially Fig. 7: Interestingly, the three main source clusters of class I events are centered exactly around three of the array stations. This looks a bit suspicious to me, could this be an artifact in the MFP results, can you comment on this?
Line 341 and following: This relates to a previous comment: To calculate the stress at a certain depth, does only a single temperature time series from this particular depth enter the calculation, or does it also include the vertical temperature gradient? What does the word “combination” in line342 imply?
Line 353: “Figure 9 …” → Figure 9a. It would also be interesting to show the event rate (e.g. events/day) as a line together with the calculated stress in Fig. 9b.
Figures
Figure 2: It took me a while to understand what’s actually shown, since this is a continuous time series split into several subfigures. I would either merge the graphs of each row and/or write the year as text into the graphs, to make it easier for the reader.
Figure 3: a) and b) are missing, but are referenced in the text. Also, in the caption, please provide more detail on what is actually shown.
Fig 4: The crosses of the stations are hardly visible in subplots g, h, i
Fig 6: The seasonality is hard to see from the figure. I suggest to give the total number of events shown in each panel e.g. in their titles.
Fig 7b-d: Being non-trained in this, it is difficult for me to spot the boulder producing scarps and solifluction lobes. Consider adding annotations to the images.
Fig 10: Maybe it would be better to show the event detection rate as a line instead of the vertical bars? What is the apparent stress? Please specify.
Fig 11: I think it would be instructive to show only the class I events and again maybe as a line or as bars. You have shown that earlier, that class II events are independent of the thermal stress, so it would be better to focus on your finding that the closeby events are related to the stress.
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Rowan Romeyn, 01 Feb 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on tc-2021-329', Babak Ravaji, 13 Dec 2021
The authors of the manuscript “Long term analysis of cryoseismic events and associated ground thermal stress in Adventdalen, Svalbard” performed a study on a large temperature and seismic database of Adventdalen valley on the island of Spitsbergen, gathered in the past two decades. The seismic data are then evaluated using STA/LTA and MFP approaches to a) filter out cryoseismic events and distinguish them from the mine activities and b) figure out the activity source location. The spatiotemporal temperature data are used to compute the stress history at different depths of the ice layer. Elastic, thermal and viscous strains drive the stress calculations. A simple fracture model is used to predict the possible cracks and cryoseismic events and compare them to the recorded seismic data. The authors concluded that there is good agreement between the model predictions and the recorded data.
In my opinion, the current manuscript lacks enough novelty and depth to get published in The Cryosphere journal. I do not have enough expertise to judge the MFP calculations section, but I hope the comments I made for the thermal stress and fracture sections help the authors to elevate the existing manuscript to The Cryosphere journal-level quality.
I added my comments to the pdf version of the manuscript and copy them here for your convenience as well.
- The Introduction is not coherent. I could not find a clear bridge between paragraphs, and also the relation between written paragraphs and the paper’s goal is not clear to me.
- Figure 2 needs more description. I assume each sub-plot corresponds to a certain year; you need to show that in the figure or caption.
- Figure 3: It would be nice if you zoom in into one of the detected events for better clarity of your method.
- Figure 6: It is hard to distinguish differences between seasons only by checking these contours. Adding numbers to either image or in the caption would help readers to notice the fluctuations across seasons.
- Page 16, 325: Your justification here to exclude summer-autumn events from your study does not seem sufficient to me. I am looking for better justification in the rest of your paper….
- Page 16, 330: Again, the justifications in this paragraph are not enough and lack scientific statements. At least, I as a reader, expect to know what type of data you need to draw a more accurate conclusion.
- Figure 8: I suggest reducing the legend of the plot to -0.5-1.5 for better contrast. I do not see values below -0.25 in the contour plots.
- Section 4.2: What are the initial and boundary conditions for solving equation 12?
- Page 17, 345: I do not understand how you associated the 20-30cm regolith to the peak stress in the ice above it. How the peak stress in the ice could lead to high stress in the rocks beneath it?
- Figure 9: I am interested to see the contribution of each strain portion (elastic, thermal, viscoelastic) into the total stress where ever you report the stress value (Figs 8-11).
- Page 20, 395: This paragraph suits better in the conclusion section.
- Section Conclusion: This section is better to be named Summary rather than Conclusion. To enrich your paper's conclusion section (which should be the most important section) I suggest discussing pros/cons of your thermal and MFP model, potential improvements of your work, and maybe possibilities to apply your model to other geographical locations…
- I am curious if you noticed any pattern in the recorded quakes for daytime versus night times (heating vs. cooling periods)?
Best regards,
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Rowan Romeyn, 01 Feb 2022
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RC3: 'Comment on tc-2021-329', Anonymous Referee #3, 17 Dec 2021
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://tc.copernicus.org/preprints/tc-2021-329/tc-2021-329-RC3-supplement.pdf
- AC3: 'Reply on RC3', Rowan Romeyn, 01 Feb 2022
- AC5: 'Reply on RC3 - fix', Rowan Romeyn, 01 Feb 2022
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RC4: 'Comment on tc-2021-329', Anonymous Referee #4, 05 Jan 2022
Romeyn et al. presents novel and long time series of data on seismic events in a permafrost environment. The data analysis clearly distinguishes two kinds of events, derived from mining activities and natural sources (cryoseisms). The results are very interesting and worth publishing in The Cryosphere. In terms of periglacial geomorphology, however, I would suggest several corrections and clarifications, mainly on the terminology and data interpretation.
Major comments
1. Thermal contraction cracking and frost cracking appear to be confused (e.g., in Section 4.2): Please distinguish between frost cracking (which occurs when ground is ‘freezing’ and by a mechanism similar to frost heaving) and thermal contraction cracking (which occurs when ‘frozen’ ground is subjected to rapid cooling. Frost cracking associated with segregated ice tends to produce horizontal cracks which can result in rock fragmentation with repeated freeze-thaw cycles over thousands of years. In contrast, thermal contraction cracking produces vertical cracks with spacing of several meters and may not contribute to rock fragmentation (regolith formation).
2. Add more detailed geomorphological information: Boulder-producing scarps (‘rockwalls’ are more popular) and solifluction lobes are regarded as major sources of summer events, but these landforms cannot be identified on the air photographs (Fig. 7b-d). Perhaps on-site photographs or 3D models show more clear features.
3. Natural seismic events apart from thermal contraction cracking: Solifluction lobes are considered one of the possible sources of seismic events both in Abstract and Conclusion, but how does solifluction (slow soil deformation) produce seismic events? Landslides (active-layer detachment slides) may also be a possible source of summer events? Note that observations at nearby sites within Adventdalen shows that seasonal frost heave is most active in September or October and thaw subsidence in June (Harris et al., 2011; Watanabe et al., 2012), which seems to coincide with some peaks of the summer seismic events.
Specific comments
Line 43: Polygonal arrangement is primary represented by ‘troughs’ between a pair of ridges. Separated by troughs, ridges do not show polygonal array.
Line 54: Solifluction results from frost ‘heaving’ and creep.
Line 57: ‘asymmetrical trajectory of soil’ rather than asymmetry between the heaving forces?
Line 111: ‘indicating the presence of sand/ice wedges’: If the polygons are small (e.g., <3 m in diameter), they could be produced by desiccation cracking or cryoturbation within the active layer and sand/ice-wedges may be absent.
Line 199: Lachenbruch (1962) first proposed the visco-elastic behavior of ice-wedge polygons, so it should be cited here.
Line 262 (also Table 1): Why tensile strength of polycrystalline ice is used? Strength may be larger in frozen soil and at lower temperature (e.g., 2-7 MPa: Haynes & Karalius, 1977) and even more in frozen bedrock.
Figure 4: Improve the complicated units of distance. The northing distance is given by 106 m, but the easting by 105 m. I suggest both axes are given by a clearer unit like km.
Line 318: ‘lowest during summer’: but still high at Location 9?
Line 321: Landslides (active-layer detachment slides) can be added as a trigger?
Line 330: Boulder-producing scarps (‘rockwalls’ are a more popular term) and solifluction lobes: See the major comment 2.
Line 348: See the major comment 1.
Line 366: ‘Thermal contraction cracking of segregated ice bodies’: I cannot understand why segregated ice body is required for cryoseisms.
Line 368: ‘most likely rockfalls’: How about solifluction or landslides? (see major comment 3)
Line 373 (Figure 10b): ‘modelled number of frost quakes’: Are they counted when thermal stress exceeds 1.0 MPa?
Line 382: ‘including the inherently stochastic nature of seismicity’: Spatial variability of thermal conditions may be the primary factor of the deviation, since the modelled frost quakes are derived from temperature data at only one location?
Line 386: ‘the periods 17-26 Feb 2010 and 7-16 Feb, 2012’: Note that thermal contraction cracking was very active at down-valley sites during these two periods (see Matsuoka et al., 2018: Fig. 12).
Line 418: How does solifluction produce seismic events? See major comment 3.
References
Harris C et al., 2011, Permafrost and Periglacial Processes, 22, 239–253.
Haynes FD and Karalius JA, 1977, Effect of temperature on the strength of frozen silt. CRREL Report 77-3.
Watababe T et al., 2012. Geografiska Annaler, Ser. A, 94, 445–457.
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